Am I Insane Or Just A Alcoholic???
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Originally Posted by 2granddaughters 
You aren't insane .. or a drunk. You are an alcoholic just like me. And you need to commit to AA just like me.
All the best.
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All the best.
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Originally Posted by Change4good
There might be untreated mental health issues. Or mental illness. Committing to AA may not resolve that piece of it.
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Originally Posted by Justfor1
I'm beginning to think I am mentally incapable of being sober. I've been sober a few days again but believe I'm too insane to grasp long term sobriety. While under the influence, I am a common criminal. I really believe that treatment for me should focus on mental health now. Does anyone understand what I'm saying? I believe picking up a drink saved me from committing suicide on one occassion many years ago. I'm unemployable sober or drunk and a burden on people so why not be a "professional drunk"? I can successfully beg for enough change per day to drink. Why bother looking for a job? It isn't worth it. I'm comfortable being labeled a drunk & accept it.
I was told by my psychiatrist that I could not be properly diagnosed of any mental health issue until I was off alcohol and drugs altogether for at least 6 months. When you gonna throw in the white towel? Meetings? You sound desperate but don't want to take suggestions. How bad do you want it? Do you want it? We can't do it for you. We can want it for you but we can't do it for you.
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deeker, I am willing to do whatever it takes. But I will only go to certain rehabs. No more "Salvation Army" for this alcoholic. I was sober nearly 1 year & still felt just as bad as ever. At least I could escape with booze.
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"Maybe I'm just a horrible human being & deserve this life? "
NO!!!! you dont deserve it! yer just a sick humn being.
how did the phone calls to betty ford, hazeldon,etc work out? if ya havent made em, time to stop screwin around. you say yer willing to go to any lengths, so getyer but in gear and make the calls.
NO!!!! you dont deserve it! yer just a sick humn being.
how did the phone calls to betty ford, hazeldon,etc work out? if ya havent made em, time to stop screwin around. you say yer willing to go to any lengths, so getyer but in gear and make the calls.
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Just, what do you think these expensive rehabs are going to tell you that you don't already know?
If AA is your path then do it exactly as it is outlined in the first 164 pages of the Big Book. Give it time and if you can honestly say that you have given in your all and you can't stay sober then try a different method. But if you have mental health issues I'm afraid nothing is going to work until you get those addressed.
If AA is your path then do it exactly as it is outlined in the first 164 pages of the Big Book. Give it time and if you can honestly say that you have given in your all and you can't stay sober then try a different method. But if you have mental health issues I'm afraid nothing is going to work until you get those addressed.
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Originally Posted by tomsteve
how did the phone calls to betty ford, hazeldon,etc work out? if ya havent made em, time to stop screwin around. you say yer willing to go to any lengths, so getyer but in gear and make the calls.
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Originally Posted by Justfor1
But I do not have the funds. Maybe they will offer me a "charity case" deal? The funny part is that if I would of attended those places I may be sober today. I only drank "a few" days last week & it has taken a horrible toll.
Expensive rehabs aren't the answer. He didn't learn anything there, that he hasn't gotten in the meetings rooms of AA. In fact, he's had his best success ever connecting with and working with his sponsor. The single best thing according to him- the big book.
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Originally Posted by Justfor1
But I do not have the funds. Maybe they will offer me a "charity case" deal? The funny part is that if I would of attended those places I may be sober today. I only drank "a few" days last week & it has taken a horrible toll.
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From what I have read you are just an alcoholic.
Full of selfishness,self centeredness, fear, anxiety, and self pity.
Constantly blaming everything and everyone for choices YOU make.
It is your fault you got those dui's. Not anyone else.
It is your fault you cannot stay sober. Not the low cost treatment center, or the bar, or your sponsors fault. Yours.
Maybe you have medical conditions. How can a doctor help if you can't stay sober?
The problem is you. Plain and simple.
All the solutions in the world cannot help until you accept that simple truth.
Good luck
Full of selfishness,self centeredness, fear, anxiety, and self pity.
Constantly blaming everything and everyone for choices YOU make.
It is your fault you got those dui's. Not anyone else.
It is your fault you cannot stay sober. Not the low cost treatment center, or the bar, or your sponsors fault. Yours.
Maybe you have medical conditions. How can a doctor help if you can't stay sober?
The problem is you. Plain and simple.
All the solutions in the world cannot help until you accept that simple truth.
Good luck
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Originally Posted by Fallow
From what I have read you are just an alcoholic.
Full of selfishness,self centeredness, fear, anxiety, and self pity.
Constantly blaming everything and everyone for choices YOU make.
It is your fault you got those dui's. Not anyone else.
It is your fault you cannot stay sober. Not the low cost treatment center, or the bar, or your sponsors fault. Yours.
Maybe you have medical conditions. How can a doctor help if you can't stay sober?
The problem is you. Plain and simple.
All the solutions in the world cannot help until you accept that simple truth.
Good luck
Full of selfishness,self centeredness, fear, anxiety, and self pity.
Constantly blaming everything and everyone for choices YOU make.
It is your fault you got those dui's. Not anyone else.
It is your fault you cannot stay sober. Not the low cost treatment center, or the bar, or your sponsors fault. Yours.
Maybe you have medical conditions. How can a doctor help if you can't stay sober?
The problem is you. Plain and simple.
All the solutions in the world cannot help until you accept that simple truth.
Good luck
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Originally Posted by Justfor1
I'm unemployable sober or drunk and a burden on people so why not be a "professional drunk"? I can successfully beg for enough change per day to drink. Why bother looking for a job? It isn't worth it. I'm comfortable being labeled a drunk & accept it.
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[QUOTE=TheEnd;3951049]This is where the problem lies. You truly believe these things, so therefore you believe sobriety is not possible. Believing is half the battle, I don't care what approach you choose.
That is true. I struggle with the believe that I can stay sober. I think I enjoy the "alcoholic" label. I enjoy blaming others for my problems as well. I woke up today sober feeling a little better.
That is true. I struggle with the believe that I can stay sober. I think I enjoy the "alcoholic" label. I enjoy blaming others for my problems as well. I woke up today sober feeling a little better.
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Originally Posted by Justfor1
That is true. I struggle with the believe that I can stay sober. I think I enjoy the "alcoholic" label. I enjoy blaming others for my problems as well. I woke up today sober feeling a little better.
One thing I can't fault you for is dishonesty,
But do u want help. Cuz this is really a forum for recovery. People who want help? Do you want help? Are you willing to take suggestions? Is that why you are here?
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Dude, when you find you are in a hole stop digging. I've said in other posts and I'll say again, you need to stop breeding negative energy. Many here successfully follow some form of religion which helps them to have strength.
What you are continually doing is Bad Karma. You need to concentrate on making an effort to improve and have an awareness to see things for what they are with clear consciousness.
Think positive and good energy hopefully will start to surround you. Don't carry such a black cloud in your Aura it is unhealthy beyond the drinking.
Turn it around JF1, don't travel that path.
What you are continually doing is Bad Karma. You need to concentrate on making an effort to improve and have an awareness to see things for what they are with clear consciousness.
Think positive and good energy hopefully will start to surround you. Don't carry such a black cloud in your Aura it is unhealthy beyond the drinking.
Turn it around JF1, don't travel that path.
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Socially, alcoholism really messes with our heads - sobriety and the life that comes with it are often so overwhelming it leads to depression. I don't know about Karma, but I do know that action begets action and things will turn positive if you begin to reach out. Not just here, but to new faces. Smile at a stranger in the street. Before you started drinking, think back to that person. Who was that? Maybe try to get in touch with that side, it's been lost and buried for a long time but worth revisiting in order to re-examine who you are.
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Originally Posted by deeker
One thing I can't fault you for is dishonesty, But do u want help. Cuz this is really a forum for recovery. People who want help? Do you want help? Are you willing to take suggestions? Is that why you are here?
But do u want help. Cuz this is really a forum for recovery. People who want help? Do you want help? Are you willing to take suggestions? Is that why you are here?Member
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One thing I can't fault you for, is your honesty....I think that is a very good start....where you are, and how you feel about that, is honesty. I am pretty sure you do not want to be with-out a home....so why not work on that issue ? And how to get "not there ?" You have my support in your honesty and earnestness .
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Hhhmmmmm.....I've heard it said that doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is one form of insanity.
I also believe that fear, self-pity and lying to oneself are all forms of mental problems. I am guilty of them all...and sometimes in Sobriety too. I've only been able to tackle my problems with Spiritual solutions....that's been my experience. Being a part of a Fellowship and trying to help another Drunk really eases my pain.
Hang in there!...don't quit before the miracle happens.
I also believe that fear, self-pity and lying to oneself are all forms of mental problems. I am guilty of them all...and sometimes in Sobriety too. I've only been able to tackle my problems with Spiritual solutions....that's been my experience. Being a part of a Fellowship and trying to help another Drunk really eases my pain.
Hang in there!...don't quit before the miracle happens.
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Originally Posted by Justfor1
Yes, I want help but I always seem to get hit over the head with it. I get a lot of "tough talk" that really doesn't help. In fact, I'm already getting prepared to be homeless. Family members have issued a order & my next drunk I'm out the door. I've done it before & I figure that at least its Spring time. I stay completed intoxicated 24/7 when I'm homeless.
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