The scientific approach
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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sorry guys, but my english is not good enough to express myself... I do prefer scientific approach to alcoholism. It is a disease, both mentally and physically. I can work with my physical effects (general health deterioration) and partly my mental health. But "God", whatever it means, won't help me. I heard phrases in AA like "let God help you and guide you through this"... God cannot help me. I have to do all the work
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Ha,
Well that escalated quickly.
I stand by what I say; I think the main focus of recovery should not be any reference to divine beings, but should be on the science behind the addiction.
In my initial post I did say that I agreed that AA does a lot of good work, I just find it curious that AA is so religious. I am not American though, so perhaps I will never understand, and I do accept that a lot of you guys are very into religion and all it entails.
No harm intended, but as this is an addiction forum and AA is a group a lot of people turn to, and also as I have got myself clean without involving them in any way, I thought in a round and about way it was relevant.
Bit of forum drama for a Saturday night may have kept a few people off the drink too, so consider it a service!
Well that escalated quickly.
I stand by what I say; I think the main focus of recovery should not be any reference to divine beings, but should be on the science behind the addiction.
In my initial post I did say that I agreed that AA does a lot of good work, I just find it curious that AA is so religious. I am not American though, so perhaps I will never understand, and I do accept that a lot of you guys are very into religion and all it entails.
No harm intended, but as this is an addiction forum and AA is a group a lot of people turn to, and also as I have got myself clean without involving them in any way, I thought in a round and about way it was relevant.
Bit of forum drama for a Saturday night may have kept a few people off the drink too, so consider it a service!
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Well, I tried the scientific method. I studied scientific method for 10 years. I have a Bachelor of Science with a major in Biology, a Masters in Engineering (OHS) and a Diploma in Paramedical Science. I tried every conceivable method to stop drinking and stuffing up my life and got stumped at every turn. I'd go a couple of weeks sober and then end it with a blow out. I cannot tell you what "God" is, I doubt any living person can truly define what IT is. All I know is that "God" as my little mind understands it, saved my life. I'll end that with a very humble HA!
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Here's an old thread where we debated what alcoholism is : http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ml#post3254617
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