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Old 11-25-2012, 11:52 AM
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Looking back it seems stupid to idolise people with drug/drink problem..
They are only human too it would seem..
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:08 PM
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I thought of this thread last night - I watched a doco on the Stones.
I don't think I've ever seen a sadder man or more lost soul than Brian Jones.

Tragic.
I wouldn't blame him for anything space....

Find a role model who found the way out.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spacestation View Post
This may make little sense....I know, This is a stupid rant.

Let me tell you, some bad influences when I was a kid. I was programmed to think booze and drugs were AOK, I may tell you of my personal regrettable situation:

These people promoted it to me when I was a kid:

Ace Frehley
Jimmy Page
Jimmy Hendrix
The 60's dope movement
Jim Morrison
Eddie van Halen
80's Head Culture
Brian Jones

The 1st and last were biggies, one lived and one died. All these drug addicts were in my space when I was seven years old. And they had a big influence on my life.

Long and short is I have always had positive reinforcement toward alcohol.
This forum is one of the few against.

And now I after a recent 41 day absence from booze have again thrown in the towel. (few days ago)

I don't know how to live without it. I feel angry that I was led into this at a young age as it was some sort of cool thing to do. NOW read that again as I had no reason other than my teenage idols to think booze was cool.

I heard EVH gave up Val cause he just wanted to be a drunk. And EVH is like my God.

Did I say I felt this was a promoted lifestyle? I learned how to play guitar and idolized the high that gave you, then it was better with some weeed (stopped long ago) but even better with all three, because EVH could do it all and I was 12 years old.

Skip 30 years and I KNOW I'm programmed to love drugs,

And have spent three bad years trying to reverse my love of it.

I don't need to ask why I'm such a bad boozer,

They say A tiger can't change it's spots, I am starting to feel this way.

I spend most of my day in a booze coma, and the end is near with a mountain of bills that , ohhhh, and i have stopped opening mail.

I want to get out, out out out!.

I have a habit of talking to myself like I am someone else? You need to...

see that everything said starts with "i" - Selfish alcoholic.

I am
Spacestation !

Why don't you go back to your post of Nov 2011 at 9 days sober. Read it!-What happened to that guy, are you one in the same? If so just read it and begin again with the plan you had then.

The "I was conditioned to be a drunk at 7 by my "Rock Star Idols" is getting a little old, just like they are. Think of how good looking Ron Woods would be today if he "just said No".

Forgive me but I really think you have to ask yourself if you really want a sober life, cause it sounds like you have various lists at your disposal for Failure.


Read what you posted! Seems still using the "Rock Star Idol" set-up for failure is getting a little old or dead, just like they are.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:18 PM
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Thank you for putting thar so politely. Blaming singers, rockstars for your lack of sobriety is stretching it just a" little".

Brian Jones died how long ago? Thats a very long time. Jimi Hendrix died before i started high school. (I think, i'm 55).

I hope you are feeling less like a grumpy old man today. I feel and look 10 years younger since i stopped drinking.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:20 PM
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Jones died in 1969, before Hendrix...aged 27.

All this is just subterfuge anyway - it's a filibuster...
it's not going to get you sober space...

it's a delaying tactic, an excuse, a reason not to try....

I hope you'll check out that rehab directory.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:22 PM
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Thanks Dee, i was 12.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TrixMixer View Post
Spacestation !

Why don't you go back to your post of Nov 2011 at 9 days sober. Read it!-What happened to that guy, are you one in the same? If so just read it and begin again with the plan you had then.

The "I was conditioned to be a drunk at 7 by my "Rock Star Idols" is getting a little old, just like they are. Think of how good looking Ron Woods would be today if he "just said No".

Forgive me but I really think you have to ask yourself if you really want a sober life, cause it sounds like you have various lists at your disposal for Failure.


Read what you posted! Seems still using the "Rock Star Idol" set-up for failure is getting a little old or dead, just like they are.
Wish I had never brought it up. The whole point is that the conditioning took place at a young age. Not like this is still sometihing I continue with.
I will go and see my prior posts, Thanks. SS
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:33 PM
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I drank and smoked weed for 30 years.
I broke my 'conditioning'.

you can too

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Old 12-01-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by spacestation View Post
Wish I had never brought it up. The whole point is that the conditioning took place at a young age. Not like this is still sometihing I continue with.
I will go and see my prior posts, Thanks. SS
Don't go to see your prior posts:<, I hate that spacestation guy- me
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:11 PM
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I used to have every excuse in the world as to why I was a drunk.

-I grew up in an alcoholic family Boo Hoo poor me.
-All my friends were drunks Boo Hoo poor me.
-I grew up in the sixtys and early seventys so all my rock idols were drunks and druggys. Boo Hoo poor me.
-It was the culture of the Army Boo Hoo poor me.
-I have ptsd Boo Hoo poor me.
-My wifes a drunk Boo Hoo poor me.

But I was only finally able to quit when I stopped blaming everything under the sun, and finally accepted the fact that I was responsible for me being a drunk. Not anyone or anything else.

If you prefer to have those people you listed help you that's fine, because they all either sobered up, or are dead.

So ask yourself; do you want to be like the ones who sober up, or the ones that died.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:30 PM
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So true...just the thread and I have faith that you know what has to be done, SS...
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zanzibar View Post
I used to have every excuse in the world as to why I was a drunk.

-I grew up in an alcoholic family Boo Hoo poor me.
-All my friends were drunks Boo Hoo poor me.
-I grew up in the sixtys and early seventys so all my rock idols were drunks and druggys. Boo Hoo poor me.
-It was the culture of the Army Boo Hoo poor me.
-I have ptsd Boo Hoo poor me.
-My wifes a drunk Boo Hoo poor me.

But I was only finally able to quit when I stopped blaming everything under the sun, and finally accepted the fact that I was responsible for me being a drunk. Not anyone or anything else.

If you prefer to have those people you listed help you that's fine, because they all either sobered up, or are dead.

So ask yourself; do you want to be like the ones who sober up, or the ones that died.
Again Wish I had never brought it up.
Environment plays a role in all things.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:40 PM
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I think everyone here is trying to help, space.

If you don't want to hear what we have to say, you don't have to stay logged in...
but I hope you will....

I remember being lost in my own despair as a terribly lonely place to be.

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Old 12-01-2012, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dee74 View Post
I think everyone here is trying to help, space.

If you don't want to hear what we have to say, you don't have to stay logged in...
but I hope you will....

I remember being lost in my own despair as a terribly lonely place to be.

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I hear you, I edited the last piece, you may have not seen it.

This Thread is Over. Post new, please. No more posts on this thread. Thanks!
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:45 PM
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Lol. I saw it. Glad you edited.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:47 PM
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I'm glad you edited Space - thanks for that

Thread closed by OP request.

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