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Old 02-01-2012, 06:49 PM
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Help me help my husband

I am a non-drinker. My husband has been drinking ALOT for the past two years. He drinks right after work and all during the weekends - but he doesn't know I know ! I have found his stash and have been "monitoring" his drinking for a while - he does not know this. Since November I have confronted him about his drinking and he said he'd stop. He hasn't. He has a heart of gold - and hates liars. He has been lying to me about this. He comes from a big family - and he is the only one who smokes and drinks. I just don't get it. What can I do - to help him? Or to have him see he has a problem?
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:00 PM
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Call your local Al-anon group.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:39 PM
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and attend the AlAnon meetings.
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:17 AM
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What do you think of an intervention? Not like the ones on TV with the cameras rolling....I have only confided to one person about my fear - and that is a relative that lives several states away. My husband has alot of family (brothers, etc) local - including his mother. I have sat him down twice only for him to say he'd stop. What if his family - in a gentle way - did the same thing? Maybe he'd listen to them? He isn't a raging drunk - I am not afraid of angry outbursts, etc. - but since he still is secretly drinking and hiding his bottles...there's a problem. I want to grow old with him - but NOT with an alcoholic. I know it will just get worse over time if it doesn't get addressed now. Thank you for any answers you can provide.
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:27 AM
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What do you think of an intervention? Not like the ones on TV with the cameras rolling....I have only confided to one person about my fear - and that is a relative that lives several states away. My husband has alot of family (brothers, etc) local - including his mother. I have sat him down twice only for him to say he'd stop. What if his family - in a gentle way - did the same thing? Maybe he'd listen to them? He isn't a raging drunk - I am not afraid of angry outbursts, etc. - but since he still is secretly drinking and hiding his bottles...there's a problem. I want to grow old with him - but NOT with an alcoholic. I know it will just get worse over time if it doesn't get addressed now. Thank you for any answers you can provide.
Its a difficult one. Only you know how he is but personally I would not get a third party involved. If he doesn't think he has a problem then it doesn't matter what anyone says to him-he will not believe them. He has to acknowledge he has a problem and want to recover from it. Can you maybe speak with him again and outline your concerns? Wishing you the best of luck.
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PuzzledWife, an intervention at this point would not help, I think. If your husband has moved his drinking out of your sight (as I did from my wife) then he knows there is a problem already. Your husband will need to some day decide that he no longer will accept the alcohol and what it does to him. Then, he will need your support.

As for now, if you can do this, you might gently tell him that you are concerned about what alcohol is doing for him. See if you can make this about what he is doing, rather than who he is. I don't know how my wife did it for so long, but she did, and I respect her for that. Good Luck.
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:25 AM
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My wife had brought it up to me on a couple of different occasions and I pushed back. Even though she did it nicely and w/ love. I know I wouldn't of handled a third party being involved very well. I think bringing it up, and making it about him and your relationship will eventually help. It woke me up
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:39 AM
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Until he comes to the realization that he wants to quit and can't there is nothing anyone can do. You need to take care of yourself. As an alcoholic I go to AA and not Al-Anon but I've heard that Al0-Anon is very helpful to those close to an alcoholic. It sure helped my wife.
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In order to avoid feeling guilty later, don't enable him.

I mean, don't pretend he's sober when he's drunk; don't apologize for him or make excuses, don't help hide it, don't ever ever serve him booze, etc.

And I second the Al-Anon advice. My ex-husband went when I was first going to AA, and although he went overboard with it and became an overnight addiction expert & guru , he did find the meetings enjoyable and beneficial. Having some people to talk to who are similarly situated always helps.
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My name's Breath, and I'm an alcoholic. Step one of the 12 steps of AA "Admitted we are powerless over Alcohol and our lives have become unmanageable" until he can do that, I'm not sure what can be done. Alcoholism is the only disease that can only be self diagnosed; and most of the treatment is up to us as well.
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My wife asked me nicely to stop. She asked me angrily to stop. She got involved. She got out of the way. The only person who could make me stop was me. I think it is important to keep reinforcing the fact that you are not happy with him and let him figure out that you know the truth about his secret. However, he needs to figure out what is more important in life and how to deal with what he is trying to run away from in his head first. At times, things got worse for me cause I chose alcohol over my family. I had to bounce off the bottom before I could see how far down I got.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:29 PM
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Hello Puzzled, welcome to SR.

Here's a great place to start:

Friends and Family of Alcoholics - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information

There are many there who care & understand that are willing to share what works for them. My first posts like yours- were directed into the users' forums and I found their responses to be extremely helpful. In fact- those responses helped save my own sanity.

Once I learned about my role in this disease I found that I needed to learn from others more like myself- to find what worked for them and learn to adapt my own behavior in positive ways.

I wish you all the best and hope you will stop by the Friends & Family sections of SR. Once you get there- take a look at the Stickies and you will see just how much help is to be found.
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Hi PuzzledWife

I'm really sorry for your situation, but you've found a great community here.

I think it takes a special understanding to really know what the spouse of loved one of an alcoholic or addict goes through.

Like cmc, I also recommend you check out our FF forums. You'll find a lot of people there who have experience in exactly what you're going through, and great advice for what you can do for yourself

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Old 02-03-2012, 02:36 PM
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In order to avoid feeling guilty later, don't enable him.

I mean, don't pretend he's sober when he's drunk; don't apologize for him or make excuses, don't help hide it, don't ever ever serve him booze, etc.

And I second the Al-Anon advice. My ex-husband went when I was first going to AA, and although he went overboard with it and became an overnight addiction expert & guru , he did find the meetings enjoyable and beneficial. Having some people to talk to who are similarly situated always helps.
I know this sounds weird....but I know actually I have been enabling him some because for the past couple of months I have been monitoring his drinking - meaning - I have found his hidden stash and have kept a journal/record of days/times/ and how much he is actually drinking. He doesn't know I have found his hiding place (it isn't in the house!). The times I have said something about his drinking is when I smelled it on his breath. Gee - now he has switched to vodka ! These are the vodka bottles I am finding....so I am not really smelling liquor on his breath now...he isn't acting drunk - BUT HE IS HIDING THESE BOTTLES AND THEY ARE GETTING EMPTIED ! No one else is here - just me and him ! So yes - he has a drinking problem - and I know it is going to get worse if he doesn't face it soon! So....whenI do tell him what I have been doing - sneaking around HIS sneaking around....!!!! See the dilemma? I feel he is a functioning alcoholic...There were a few days I thought that he actually quit drinking because his stash was gone - and not being replaced....but I looked around some more and found it... he is actually beginning to use different places - there is NO WAY he knows I know - so why is he changing his stash places - like a few feet apart??? I mentioned an intervention with his family because - maybe since he doesn't listen to me - he would listen to them?
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Alcoholism is a progressive disease. Most of us were "functioning" while drinking at some point but as the disease progresses that goes away.

Please look into Alanon in your area. It could help you tremendously and may be help you with the decision about the intervention. I have no experience with that really. If you go to some Alanon meetings, no doubt you'll meet some people who have first hand knowledge of that.

For the most part, an alcoholic has to decide on their own they want/need to quit drinking. With that said, I'm sure there have been interventions that have been successful.

The deal is ...... you're making yourself sick with stress and worry and monitoring and more than likely, you're ignoring yourself and your needs. Alanon can help you with that.
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Your monitoring his drinking is not stopping him from drinking. Your searching for his stash is not stopping him from hiding his bottles. Your planning ways to try and get him to understand he has a problem is not stopping him from drinking. Your wondering and questioning and obsessing is not stopping him from drinking. Your conversations with him expressing your concerns about his drinking are not stopping him from drinking.

What all these things are doing is causing you stress and worry and causing you to shift your focus from taking care of yourself to trying to control him. He is simply becoming craftier and more careful and finding other ways to hide his drinking from you. Someone who has a problem with alcohol is not going to believe that he or she has a problem with alcohol until that person comes to that realization him or herself.

What you can do: detach with love, set appropriate boundaries, refuse to enable him, seek help for yourself and get healthy yourself, read all you can about alcoholism so that you understand what you are dealing with. Al-Anon is a great starting place as is the Friends and Families Forum on Sober Recovery. Under the Influence and Beyond the Influence are great books.

We can tell you that you can't stop him from drinking -- that no one can. Others who have lived with an alcoholic can share their experience as well. But I suspect that you won't believe us until you have tried all sorts of sundry ways to get him to stop and find that none of these things work. If you think involving his family and/or staging an intervention will help, then do it. Just don't be disappointed at the outcome/ the results.
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