Alcoholic Traits, Characteristics
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Originally Posted by HuskyPup 
So I tend to find that in AA, there is more of a tendency to see all people who have drinking problems the same way, as egotistical, self-centered, and all that, just like Bill W and his wealthy stock-broker friends that started the whole thing: Powerful, white, privileged men who thought they ran the world.
Secondly, the sometimes-thinly-veiled-sometimes-not program bashing is becoming old, old, old. It's rather unfortunate those of you who just can't help yourselves are giving our poor forum leaders such a workout as of late.
Anyone wishing to take shots at a recovery program should go somewhere that isn't loaded w/lurkers who can latch onto this negative crap as justification to NOT pursue recovery.
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Hmm...
active alcoholics do tend to keep the focus on themselves and their booze.
The point of recovery is to change both....IMO...
Wishing y'all the peace and joy of a sucessful recovery.
active alcoholics do tend to keep the focus on themselves and their booze.
The point of recovery is to change both....IMO...
Wishing y'all the peace and joy of a sucessful recovery.
Laozi Old Man
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Originally Posted by HuskyPup
... So I tend to find that in AA, there is more of a tendency to see all people who have drinking problems the same way, as egotistical, self-centered, and all that, just like Bill W and his wealthy stock-broker friends that started the whole thing: Powerful, white, privileged men who thought they ran the world.
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And yet here I am, sober after all this time, 80-ish days.
So whatever traits are insisted upon or not insisted upon, at the end of the day, I also sense a lot of 'program' bashing by people using mixed/other modes of recovery. And a lot of this is not just 'thinly veiled' but put in terms of, 'Well, you only have this...", or, "Well, you always act like this..." And so on, and so on, which seems a lot like the behavior of resentment and anger. As this is a forum to discuss alcoholism in general, I did find it curious that AA sees alcoholics just one way, and thought it would be helpful to mention, as everyone may not be aware of it.
But my main point: Non AA approaches get bashed right and left, and it is generally OK for this to happen; it is all but routine. But say too much negative about AA, and you get shot down, just like that. Just Sayin'.
So whatever traits are insisted upon or not insisted upon, at the end of the day, I also sense a lot of 'program' bashing by people using mixed/other modes of recovery. And a lot of this is not just 'thinly veiled' but put in terms of, 'Well, you only have this...", or, "Well, you always act like this..." And so on, and so on, which seems a lot like the behavior of resentment and anger. As this is a forum to discuss alcoholism in general, I did find it curious that AA sees alcoholics just one way, and thought it would be helpful to mention, as everyone may not be aware of it.
But my main point: Non AA approaches get bashed right and left, and it is generally OK for this to happen; it is all but routine. But say too much negative about AA, and you get shot down, just like that. Just Sayin'.
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ooops, double posted...brower is freezing up, here, on Chrome. Must be the ghost of Steve Jobs
But the thinly veiled 'active alcoholic' accusations are also not very nice, now that I ponder them.
This is what drives a lot of folks away from both recovery, and from AA...
But the thinly veiled 'active alcoholic' accusations are also not very nice, now that I ponder them.
This is what drives a lot of folks away from both recovery, and from AA...
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Here is our SR Rule 4.... If you find this too restrictive SR is not the site for you. This flameing will stop
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