Take a second to think about what alcohol really is.
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It just does not matter if alcohol is potion or not. Any substance is toxin, if our body has to fight , any by products resulting after entry of that substance in our body.. This applies to any chemical,food or substance. The amount of does matters ,too.
I agree with Carol.. It will be good idea to share more on our recovery . This debate is not going anywhere .
I agree with Carol.. It will be good idea to share more on our recovery . This debate is not going anywhere .
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Originally Posted by tooling 
It doesn't matter what you call it. It is a mycotoxin.
Alcohol is a wast product produce yeast as the end result of anaerobic glucose metabolism. True mycotoxins, such as aflotoxin, are also end points of metabolic pathways, but they serve a purpose to the fungus and are not in need of immediate disposal.
In fact, yeast sitting around in vat of fermenting beer or wine is akin to a human sitting around in their own feces, both are much more likely to die because they are being expose to their own waste products.
Originally Posted by tooling
I can go a little deeper here.
I have read into candida infections on the body. It's a yeast that can grow into fungus with roots in your intestines. It thrives on sugars and alcohol. I have read many alcoholics have excessive candida growths inside them. Having candida creates a serious urge to eat sweet things including alcohol. In fact, people with severe candida can actually blow a reading on a alcohol meter without ever drinking because of all the alcohol the fungus is producing.
I have read people that become alcoholics usually have a case of candida albican. Thus the extreme abuse of alcohol is fueled by the internal fungus's desires and needs.
Every hear of the guy who ate a bunch of chocolate to help him stay dry? I personally gave up sugar and alcohol and feel much better.
Food for thought. But it's worth mentioning to people like ourselves.
I have read into candida infections on the body. It's a yeast that can grow into fungus with roots in your intestines. It thrives on sugars and alcohol. I have read many alcoholics have excessive candida growths inside them. Having candida creates a serious urge to eat sweet things including alcohol. In fact, people with severe candida can actually blow a reading on a alcohol meter without ever drinking because of all the alcohol the fungus is producing.
I have read people that become alcoholics usually have a case of candida albican. Thus the extreme abuse of alcohol is fueled by the internal fungus's desires and needs.
Every hear of the guy who ate a bunch of chocolate to help him stay dry? I personally gave up sugar and alcohol and feel much better.
Food for thought. But it's worth mentioning to people like ourselves.
As a side note, despite what some AA literature may say (explicitly or implicitly), alcohol is not, not, not, not, not, not, not a sugar. It is chemically not a sugar, nor is it metabolized as a sugar.
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Originally Posted by Newborn
It just does not matter if alcohol is potion or not. Any substance is toxin, if our body has to fight , any by products resulting after entry of that substance in our body.. This applies to any chemical,food or substance. The amount of does matters ,too.
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Originally Posted by thisisme
Alcohol is poison.
Alcohol has no purpose(when consumed).
Alcohol causes more harm than all the tragedies of the world, combined.
Alcohol has no purpose(when consumed).
Alcohol causes more harm than all the tragedies of the world, combined.
Alcohol may cause a lot of problems for you, but it is safely consumed by the vast majority of people in the world.
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Originally Posted by Sdsurfn2011
This thread has some intellectual value, but the topic being discussed has no bearing whatsoever on my recovery.
Just my 2 cents.
-SD
Just my 2 cents.
-SD
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Originally Posted by MickeyAnMeisce
My, that's quite an intolerant view.
Alcohol may cause a lot of problems for you, but it is safely consumed by the vast majority of people in the world.
Alcohol may cause a lot of problems for you, but it is safely consumed by the vast majority of people in the world.
I don't care about the vast amount of people in the world and how they choose to drink poison.
I also think it's careless(in this context) to give alcohol value.
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