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TheBatman 01-10-2011 04:49 PM

If Alcohol didnt cause, mental, health problems, would you of quit?
 
I thought id throw you all for a loop and wanted to ask you all a question i stated in another thread. Hypathetically speaking of course. If Alcohol caused no health problems and no mental problems (no brain fog, hangovers, etc) would you stop or of quit drinking? If so state why, im very curious to see all the answers and to get you all thinking. :)

bellakeller 01-10-2011 04:53 PM

I probably wouldn't have quit if there were no consequences.

Reset 01-10-2011 04:53 PM

Do relationship problems count as mental problems?

Untoxicated 01-10-2011 04:54 PM

If alcohol didn't cause any problems, it probably wouldn't have had been a very good solution. Sounds like tap water to me, I would have passed for something that worked.

Boleo 01-10-2011 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by TheBatman (Post 2825735)
... If Alcohol caused no health problems and no mental problems (no brain fog, hangovers, etc) would you stop or of quit drinking?

Alcohol was not my problem until it stopped being my solution.

I used to use alcohol to feel good about not dealing with life.

Now I use life to feel good about not dealing with alcohol.

TheBatman 01-10-2011 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Untoxicated (Post 2825743)
If alcohol didn't cause any problems, it probably wouldn't have had been a very good solution. Sounds like tap water to me, I would have passed for something that worked.

Well i assume everyone is different, but i was never one of the "mad drunks" or people who change up when they drink, i always had problems afterwards and the hangovers. I cant really recall anytime that i actually acted out because i was so drunk.

Infact ive been around cops numerous times wasted and have had conversaions with them and they had no clue i even drunk at all. 99% of people can not tell im drunk, only family members. But getting back to the point, i meant that if alcohol had no effect on you mentally as in hangovers or health problems, not the overall effect it has on you while youre drinking of course.

AlwaysGrowing 01-10-2011 05:05 PM

Batman
I understand the question...But it does.. Bottom line..

I've been sober for a long time, my life is so much better today even going thru a divorce than if I was drinking.. Hands down.

ZZworldontheweb 01-10-2011 05:14 PM

To refine your question: in this hypothetical case, do we still build up a tolerance for alcohol? i.e. do we need more and more of it to get a buzz? And does it still impair things like driving?

TheBatman 01-10-2011 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by ZZworldontheweb (Post 2825760)
To refine your question: in this hypothetical case, do we still build up a tolerance for alcohol? i.e. do we need more and more of it to get a buzz? And does it still impair things like driving?

Of course it does, it does everything is always has done. But the only thing different is this time there are no hangovers, brain fogs, migraines, or any health problems, once you start sobering up its done and over no more problems.

I guess some people arent understanding the question (or maybe they are im not sure) im just thinking outside of the box and asking myself and others a question. But i guess alot of people have had alot of bad things happen to them while drunk (which isnt the case for me fortuantely) it was always afterwards the next morning when i was hungover.

Reset 01-10-2011 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by TheBatman (Post 2825747)
But getting back to the point, i meant that if alcohol had no effect on you mentally as in hangovers or health problems, not the overall effect it has on you while youre drinking of course.

Then, yeah I would still try to quit.

Hangovers were never much of an issue for me. But being distant, flaky, depressed, irritable, and argumentative while drunk is.

BullDog777 01-10-2011 05:34 PM

i quit because it was killing me.

however, the relationships that have been repaired as a result of my sobriety are worth far more than i could ever drink...even with no consequences.

Conk 01-10-2011 05:34 PM

If it had no adverse health effects I would probably not stop.

But if that also includes the stigma of being a drunk / alcoholic - I would stop, simply to remove that stigma.

Also Batman - I also was never an out-of-hand drunk. I just wanted to lay back and do my own thing, usually at home and alone. But that's no way to live life if you ask me.

ImReadyToQuit 01-10-2011 05:45 PM

I've never thought about this particular question..


But I know the answer to this one.. And I bet all of you have the same answer...


"If you could go back to that first drink, would you have taken that FIRST sip?"

Dee74 01-10-2011 06:02 PM

I guess we're coming from very different places TB - health problems and mental problems (brain fog, hangovers, etc) were the very least of my problems.

I was a quiet drunk, no police record, no drama - but I damaged a lot of relationships, and I was destroying my life, my body and my soul.

The decision I made to quit was probably the best one I ever made in my life.

D

Mark75 01-10-2011 06:04 PM

A question like that makes me wonder if perhaps you are in the bargaining phase of the grief we all go through when letting go of something that was a big part of our lives...

Just a guess.

If only I could drink without any consequences.... ;)

rws177 01-10-2011 06:06 PM

If drinking didn't cause any problems then I guess I would have had no reason to stop, but it did, and therefore I did quit!

least 01-10-2011 06:10 PM

If I was still able to be drunk and stupid and useless without health consequences... I still would have quit cause it nearly ruined my relationship with my kids and destroyed my self worth and self esteem.:(

LaFemme 01-10-2011 06:22 PM

Ok...its an interesting hypothetical.

I didn't get hangovers, no Dui or any of the other "consequences" of drinking...it was effecting my health and I was suffering from anxiety and depression...those were the factors that played a role in my getting sober. That and I hated drinking with a passion at the end...I only drank at the end because I had forgotten how to live and was essentially committing suicide.

One of the cornerstones of my sobriety is to eliminate any nostalgia or longing for booze...so if You could give me a magic pill that did what you said I would say no...I would not drink again.

When I smell it today it makes me want to vomit.

I hope that answers your question:)

Taking5 01-10-2011 06:39 PM

With no consequences of any type, I'm sure I would not have quit.

Grammar Nazi in me, I could not resist. I hate it when people say of instead of have.

LexieCat 01-10-2011 07:12 PM

I think I probably would have, mainly because I was becoming a friggin' slave to it. It sucked up all my mental energy, caused me to isolate and become a virtual hermit except for when I was at work.

I had completely lost myself in the bottle. Hell of a way to "live".


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