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Old 06-12-2010, 04:14 PM
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Serum Ferritin Levels Predicts Cirrihosis (get yours checked)

My last test I was at 804... I came across this on a government health site explaining what ferritin levels mean..

BACKGROUND: DNA-based HFE gene testing can confirm hereditary hemochromatosis in most people of Northern European descent. However, liver biopsy is important to detect cirrhosis. OBJECTIVE: To develop noninvasive criteria to predict the presence or absence of advanced hepatic fibrosis or cirrhosis in Americans with hemochromatosis. DESIGN: Cross-sectional study. SETTING: Six tertiary care referral clinics. PATIENTS: 182 patients with phenotypically defined hemochromatosis. MEASUREMENTS: Liver histopathology and serum ferritin, aspartate aminotransferase, and alanine aminotransferase levels. Multivariate logistic regression analysis was used to examine factors associated with cirrhosis (defined as bridging fibrosis or unequivocal cirrhosis on biopsy). RESULTS: Cirrhosis was present in 40 of 182 (22%) patients in the overall group and in 35 of 147 (24%) of C282Y homozygotes. Only 1 of 93 patients with a serum ferritin level less than 1000 microg/L had cirrhosis compared with 39 of 89 patients with serum ferritin levels greater than 1000 microg/L (P < 0.001). No C282Y homozygotes or C282Y/H63D compound heterozygotes with serum ferritin levels less than 1000 microg/L had cirrhosis. Elevated serum aminotransferase levels (P = 0.001) and serum ferritin levels greater than 1000 microg/L (P = 0.001), but not age older than 40 years (P = 0.2), were independently associated with cirrhosis. In a multivariate model, the probability of cirrhosis was 7.4% among patients with serum ferritin levels less than 1000 microg/L compared with 72% among patients with serum ferritin levels greater than 1000 microg/L after adjustment for age and elevated serum liver enzyme levels. CONCLUSIONS: Patients with hemochromatosis and serum ferritin levels less than 1000 microg/L are unlikely to have cirrhosis. Liver biopsy to screen for cirrhosis may be unnecessary in such patients, regardless of age or serum liver enzyme levels.
Serum ferritin level predicts advanced hepatic fib... [Ann Intern Med. 2003] - PubMed result
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That is about hemochromatosis and the chances of getting liver disease based on the ferritin levels in the blood. If you have a family history of hemochromatosis, then get screened ...

This only has peripheral relevance to the alcohol drinker.

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That is about hemochromatosis and the chances of getting liver disease based on the ferritin levels in the blood. If you have a family history of hemochromatosis, then get screened ...

This only has peripheral relevance to the alcohol drinker.

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Higher-than-normal ferritin levels may be due to:

* Alcoholic liver disease
* Frequent transfusion of packed red blood cells
* Hemochromatosis
Ferritin: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia



This is certainly relevant to alcoholics, thats why I was screened. It's far from a minor issue and can be very important even more so then enzyme counts to determine the extent of the damage thats been done.

GET SCREENED!
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my ferritin level back in Feb was 1037
my doc said to stop drinking and get my bloodwork done in a few months and check in because he was worried about the damage to my liver

finally getting sober this month and trying to find the courage to get my bloodwork done again.

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I think the study is ONLY patients already known to have hemochromatosis (condition in which the body absorbs too much iron). As I read it, for such patients, the ferritin level may have predictive power for cirrhosis. Since cirrhosis results in the failure of the liver to filter blood, it makes sense that iron levels would be much higher for cirrhotic patients that have a pre-existing iron condition than for non-cirrhotic patients.

Excessive alcohol leading to liver disease is just one of many causes of hemochromatosis, and from my quick googling, it does not appear to be a leading cause (largely hereditary). We don't know how many of the 182 patients (if any) had a history of alcohol abuse.

Interesting stuff, though. normal range is 20-250 (though diff labs, source may differ slightly).

I guess just control what we can - eat healthy, DON'T DRINK, and go to the doctor for any problems/regular checkups (and be honest).
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SR has been suggesting.....year after year...

please consult with a medical professional about
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I certainly hope our members will make appointments
to check out whatever damage their drinking
may have caused. Some things can be reversed
some can not.

I've not heard of anyone dying from abstinance.
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This is certainly relevant to alcoholics, thats why I was screened. It's far from a minor issue and can be very important even more so then enzyme counts to determine the extent of the damage thats been done.
no... Liver enzymes, ammonia levels and clotting studies are how we determine the extent of the liver damage. And if there is a lot of concern about the extent of liver damage, or questions about the cause of the liver damage, then... Biopsy. Which is what the article was about, assessing whether someone with hemochromatosis is at risk for severe liver damge.

But you do make an entirely relevant point that serum ferritin levels should be checked when trying to find the cause of hepatitis, or cirrhosis. Thanx.

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Hi, lucky, welcome to SR.

It is scary stuff. This thread is a bit old, and unfortunately, I know that at least one of the posters went on to suffer serious liver damage. How about you—are you thinking it's time to quit, turn things around for the better? You can, you know.
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I've never been so happy to have low iron! Mine is usually too low or barely normal.

Thanks for the thread. It helps me stay sober when I remember the medical consequences of drinking.
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Originally Posted by CarolD View Post
SR has been suggesting.....year after year...

please consult with a medical professional about
your problems with alcohol.


I certainly hope our members will make appointments
to check out whatever damage their drinking
may have caused. Some things can be reversed
some can not.

I've not heard of anyone dying from abstinance.
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LOL thats an old post FD - but a good one

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