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Old 09-08-2009, 03:42 PM
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as of tomorrow:

1) no drinkie.

2) no smokie.

That's my plan. I am grateful for this place. I will keep reading and posting. Thank you so much...
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Hi Franceen, welcome to SR. Sounds like a good start to me, I hope you'll continue to have a daily plan for your recovery.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:55 PM
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Astro and Sikkisirus,

Thanks for the votes of confidence. It actually means a lot!

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Old 09-08-2009, 04:10 PM
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Franceen welcome to SR. Great plan, but if I may. I'd suggest one thing.

Make the not drinkie the #1 concern.

Smoking is harmful, but it's something that can be tackled after the drinking. I currenty smoke and want to quit myself, but you dont want to take away too much at once and have a reverse effect on yourself. I plan to quit smoking as well but plan to do it after I have 6 month sobriety. So just a suggestion....tackle not drinking first, then after your comfortable with that then work on the not smoking

Just my thoughts. But welcome and post us how your doing!

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Old 09-08-2009, 04:52 PM
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Franceen,

That's quite an ambitious plan, I wish you the best!
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:56 PM
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Make the not drinkie the #1 concern.
I appreciate what you're saying. The two (drinking and smoking) are so intertwined for me, they both must get kicked out together.

In the past, I have quit drinking while smoking, and it failed (I drank.).

In the past, while abstinent from drinking yet still smoking, I found I was still living the insane addictive destructive lifestyle.

And, for me, it leads back to drinking.

Could it be the same "beast"?? I've noticed I don't feel "free" at all, if I quit drinking but continue the smoking.
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:00 PM
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I wish you the best Franceen.
I have a book called 7 weeks to sobriety. The lady that wrote it runs a rehab center. They do things differently than most.
There is no smoking there and she writes most people quit smoking at the same time they quit drinking. I quit smoking a long time ago. It sounds awful hard to me. But I think she says no nicotine helps with alcohol cravings.
Of course it's the same with caffine, sugar and no telling what else. Sugar is supposed to be bad for you while giving up alcohol, but I don't know. I sure did look forward to chocolate cake those first couple weeks.
But I agree with Daywalker. If you have to give in. Give in to cigarettes.
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Franceen View Post
I appreciate what you're saying. The two (drinking and smoking) are so intertwined for me, they both must get kicked out together.

In the past, I have quit drinking while smoking, and it failed (I drank.).

In the past, while abstinent from drinking yet still smoking, I found I was still living the insane addictive destructive lifestyle.

And, for me, it leads back to drinking.

Could it be the same "beast"?? I've noticed I don't feel "free" at all, if I quit drinking but continue the smoking.

Franceen all I can tell ya is my own experiance, so take it for what its worth okay

But I found when I tried to quit drinking&smoking at the same time it was just too much. Quiting drinking is a HUGE thing. It will play with your ego, your emotion, you thoughts, and your whole way of life as you know it. Quitting smoking does almost the same thing, so when you do both at once its like taking on twice the load (at least for me it was).

Smoking sucks...I've smoked for 15 yrs and I know it started when I started drinking, was a big part of my drinking (smoked more when I drank) but...it was/is seperate from my alcohol addiction.

The main thing is if you feel your an alcoholic/have a drinking problem then stopping drinking is #1. Smoking is not good, but it's a vice/health issue that can be taken care of later on once you stop the "main" thing that is a problem to your life/health.

That makes any sence to ya the way I explained it? Maybe not...I'm not the best at explaining things so maybe someone else can explain it better??

The main thing is...your here and talking about it. Good for you!
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:06 PM
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:34 PM
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YOU CAN DO IT!!!!

Cheering for you Franceen!!!
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:02 AM
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I agree with the poters who advocate quitting drinking first.
Cigs are deadly in the long run but one rarely smokes to the point of putting others at danger.
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:17 AM
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Good luck man... glad you found this site lots of support. Taking out both at once--your a bigger man than I am. But I can see why you have to try it. Good luck on your journey.

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Old 09-09-2009, 02:33 AM
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I didn't manage to do both at once, the drink had to be the primary in the end, don't get me wrong i would love to stop smoking too and will in the future. The biggest problem, for me, trying always to quit both was that i couldnt tell if i was craving a cigarette or a drink...i guess that is why the doc, counselor and sponsor have all sade dont quit smoking yet...but then again i am an alcoholic so the drinking will put me in a grave before the smokies:-)
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:59 AM
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That sounds like a very healthy plan.
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:39 AM
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For me also, the drink and the smoke are married. I quit both at the same time....4 months clean from both. I use the steps with cigs just like the booze, although the cig craving never really reared it's head. Most of the meetings around my town are non-smoking. For me, smoking just makes me want the bottle. I have never felt better.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:01 AM
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:11 PM
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I didn't make it today. My plan is to stop and quit today, before midnight. I want to quit today, 9/9/9. I love that "nine nine nine" means "no no no" in German (or is it Russian?).
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I didn't make it today. My plan is to stop and quit today, before midnight. I want to quit today, 9/9/9. I love that "nine nine nine" means "no no no" in German (or is it Russian?).
'neine neine neine' its German

Best wishes on the plan x
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