What do you all think of this, i hope ok to post a link!
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What do you all think of this, i hope ok to post a link!
Hi all
I read this in a UK newspaper, maybe its already been on here, but i wanted to share it with you all & maybe see what you think!
I appologise if i'm not supposed to post links, i'm just in a hurry this morning & didn't have time to read rules!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-recovery.html
wf
I read this in a UK newspaper, maybe its already been on here, but i wanted to share it with you all & maybe see what you think!
I appologise if i'm not supposed to post links, i'm just in a hurry this morning & didn't have time to read rules!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-recovery.html
wf
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Hmm...
I think anythime you publish with the words Alcoholism and Cure together
you are going to sell a lot of books/newpapers.
As I hear in AA....."More is to be revealed"
I think anythime you publish with the words Alcoholism and Cure together
you are going to sell a lot of books/newpapers.
As I hear in AA....."More is to be revealed"
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My hats off to anyone who can take a pill and drink like a lady or gentleman, I'll stick with what works quite well for me. I don't think a pill can cure the spiritual malady associated with alcoholism, I don't think a pill can undo all the wreckage I brought to the lives of others, nor do I think a pill can give me the feeling I get by living the life I do.
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Yeh, i appreciate all you say, i know this is just 1 guy & maybe he got lucky!!, it's the cravings that seem to be the issue with me mostly & if this drug supresses the cravings, then i'm gonna give it a try or at least ask my doc or the substance misuse team that i see that try to want to shove antabuse down my neck!
I know i have the will to stop & the desire, & am doing ok, although the odd relapse occasionally due to severe anxiety, but i know that one about the anxiety not getting better until the drink stops.
I always asked my doc about why patches or something hadn't yet been invented as there are for smoking & he agrees!
Curbing the cravings is my thing!!!
I know that i need to want to do it for me & it wouldn't work alone, but i think i may enquire!!
wf
I know i have the will to stop & the desire, & am doing ok, although the odd relapse occasionally due to severe anxiety, but i know that one about the anxiety not getting better until the drink stops.
I always asked my doc about why patches or something hadn't yet been invented as there are for smoking & he agrees!
Curbing the cravings is my thing!!!
I know that i need to want to do it for me & it wouldn't work alone, but i think i may enquire!!
wf
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Might be cause, I'm getting older in life.
At the amount of time I've invested in my sobriety now, I wouldn't pick up a drink again if, they found a curs.
I'll stick to my green tea, coffee and a diet coke
At the amount of time I've invested in my sobriety now, I wouldn't pick up a drink again if, they found a curs.
I'll stick to my green tea, coffee and a diet coke
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I had heard of this guy before. I think it is interesting but in reading this specific article something else jumped out at me that I had not previously thought of and that was the placebo effect. The placebo effect can be extremely powerful (http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2007/05/18), better than the best medicines, and it seemed that this man had a strange singularity of reason for his alcoholism which then he found the medicine to take away. I am all for medical research and alcoholism, I just think I will be wary of what has worked for only one person ever and increased odds slightly in one very small study. It just needs and merits more research.
The other thing is that even if I could take a pill and drink normally then I wouldn't necessarily address the underlying issues which really is the big deal. Addiction is not born in a vacuum and unfortunately a magic pill cannot take away what growing up on alcohol has done to me. There is emotional work that has to be done for me to become a happy functioning healthy sober person. If I thought a pill could cure my alcoholism I might not think I had to do that work and risk loosing that chance.
For those who are interested in pills and alcohol treatment another more widely used method is with naltrexone called the sinclair method: Sinclair Method - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The other thing is that even if I could take a pill and drink normally then I wouldn't necessarily address the underlying issues which really is the big deal. Addiction is not born in a vacuum and unfortunately a magic pill cannot take away what growing up on alcohol has done to me. There is emotional work that has to be done for me to become a happy functioning healthy sober person. If I thought a pill could cure my alcoholism I might not think I had to do that work and risk loosing that chance.
For those who are interested in pills and alcohol treatment another more widely used method is with naltrexone called the sinclair method: Sinclair Method - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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picking up a drink was only a symptom of my illness. like someone else said there was underlying issues. I was forced to work at finding out what was really going on for me and why I drank to numb out my feelings . Thank God there was no pill or I would have just painted over the rust. I would be a miserable son of a b....., instead of a happy, contented me. besides as an alcoholic, I was never interested in just having one or two drinks..............boring and whats the point.
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but i drank cos it was just socialising & before that did lots of speed & dope!, no underlying issues when i started, but i went from speed & dope to booze, but i had no reason other than a social thing, other than now fighting anxiety, most probably from the drugs!!
If i can get a med that stops the craving as well as my valium to stop the after affect, it'd be great!!
I can't see as this being a bad thing at all!! , mostly positive infact!!
If i can get a med that stops the craving as well as my valium to stop the after affect, it'd be great!!
I can't see as this being a bad thing at all!! , mostly positive infact!!
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Originally Posted by waterface 
but i drank cos it was just socialising & before that did lots of speed & dope!, no underlying issues when i started, but i went from speed & dope to booze, but i had no reason other than a social thing, other than now fighting anxiety, most probably from the drugs!!
If i can get a med that stops the craving as well as my valium to stop the after affect, it'd be great!!
I can't see as this being a bad thing at all!! , mostly positive infact!!
If i can get a med that stops the craving as well as my valium to stop the after affect, it'd be great!!
I can't see as this being a bad thing at all!! , mostly positive infact!!
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He looks and sounds like a total bellend! To use an english put down!
Yeah hes out for selling books. He can drink a glass of champagne without really wanting one which is remarkable. ****! Thanks for the post, another quick reminder why i don't like in the UK!
Yeah hes out for selling books. He can drink a glass of champagne without really wanting one which is remarkable. ****! Thanks for the post, another quick reminder why i don't like in the UK!
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you would never believe what happened me yesterday. This guy was on irish radio talking about this very pill. I was on my way to meet a friend from a.a. When we met she was smilimg and said her mother had been listening to the radio and wanted her to ask me where she could but those pills lol
A poet called michael harnett wrote about alcoholism
“Alcohol’s a cunning beast./ It fools the doctor and the priest,/ it fools the clever and the sane/ but not the liver or the brain.”
A poet called michael harnett wrote about alcoholism
“Alcohol’s a cunning beast./ It fools the doctor and the priest,/ it fools the clever and the sane/ but not the liver or the brain.”
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I don't think I'm gonna rush out and buy any let's put it out that way.
I will say 10mg of Lexapro a day and I have no more anxiety or depression, therefore I have no desire to drink... I've been to numerous functions where the alcohol flowed freely (Mardi Gras being one of them) and I was happy as a lark to sip my barg root beer and have a good time.
I will say 10mg of Lexapro a day and I have no more anxiety or depression, therefore I have no desire to drink... I've been to numerous functions where the alcohol flowed freely (Mardi Gras being one of them) and I was happy as a lark to sip my barg root beer and have a good time.
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I am too very skeptical, although i will put it to the doctor when i have my 1st appointment at my substance misuse centre on Monday!
Who knows, it may work for some!! & anything is worth a shot (pun not intended).
Anxiety is raging within my body at the moment & not even my valium seems to be working.
I know i need to go cold turkey big time & go through all the bad affects that will follow, but i want to do it properly from Monday with expert help from the misuse team.
I just don't know how i'm gonna get through until Monday like this
wf
Who knows, it may work for some!! & anything is worth a shot (pun not intended).
Anxiety is raging within my body at the moment & not even my valium seems to be working.
I know i need to go cold turkey big time & go through all the bad affects that will follow, but i want to do it properly from Monday with expert help from the misuse team.
I just don't know how i'm gonna get through until Monday like this
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WF.....
I don't know anything about anxiety....perhaps this Forum will help you
Anxiety Disorders - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information
Blessings
I don't know anything about anxiety....perhaps this Forum will help you
Anxiety Disorders - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information
Blessings
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This has opened a whole can of worms, its bollox Ive watch people struggle their whole lives and die of alcoholism. There aint no cure apart from helping yourself and getting as much support as possible. AA, Group Therapy, friends, family.
If I could take a pill and end it all the emotional strain, I would but I dont think it would.
If I could take a pill and end it all the emotional strain, I would but I dont think it would.
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the pill is not a cure, it's supposed to keep you from craving, if you don't crave you don't drink, but if you don't take the pill you're gonna crave...so you're not cured...but if it worked I'm sure we'd have heard of it before, or we'll hear lots and lots about it soon. I'm more than skeptical !
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So i saw the specialist substance misuse team in my city that i've had to wait 6 months for an appointment & was assessed for nearly 2 hours & had blood test!
I mentioned Baclofen to my assessor & any other medications that help with cravings, because i realy do at the moment, drink to self medicate my anxiety when i know all too well that it is a perverse vicious circle!
She said that Baclofen is under trial for reducing cravings & differs from other benzodiazapine's in a way that not only does it relax muscle spasms, central nervous system anxiety etc, but also, unlike valium, xanax etc, it has an affect on the craving affects of alcohol on the body!
She also mentioned other medications like antabuse that i don't think i'd like to take & acamprosate that also is a mild craving reliever that isn't always successfull for lots of people!
Most of these drugs are taken at a stage when people want to abstain 100%, & yes, i am skeptikal about Baclofen being able to turn an alcoholic into a social drinker as the article says!
I guess all meds, unless Baclofen does turn out to be miraculous, need the co-operation of the individual to have the need & want to strive to stop & i will discuss more to the medical doctor i will see on my next visit in 1 week when my blood results return!
Thanks Carol, i will look at your link, anxiety stinks, it affects everything, i had it since i was born & its ruined a lot of things for me in life!!, even before a drink touched my lips!
huggs to you all
wf
I mentioned Baclofen to my assessor & any other medications that help with cravings, because i realy do at the moment, drink to self medicate my anxiety when i know all too well that it is a perverse vicious circle!
She said that Baclofen is under trial for reducing cravings & differs from other benzodiazapine's in a way that not only does it relax muscle spasms, central nervous system anxiety etc, but also, unlike valium, xanax etc, it has an affect on the craving affects of alcohol on the body!
She also mentioned other medications like antabuse that i don't think i'd like to take & acamprosate that also is a mild craving reliever that isn't always successfull for lots of people!
Most of these drugs are taken at a stage when people want to abstain 100%, & yes, i am skeptikal about Baclofen being able to turn an alcoholic into a social drinker as the article says!
I guess all meds, unless Baclofen does turn out to be miraculous, need the co-operation of the individual to have the need & want to strive to stop & i will discuss more to the medical doctor i will see on my next visit in 1 week when my blood results return!
Thanks Carol, i will look at your link, anxiety stinks, it affects everything, i had it since i was born & its ruined a lot of things for me in life!!, even before a drink touched my lips!
huggs to you all
wf
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