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REBT Books
My mom bought me a couple of REBT based books that I've had for almost 10 years. I read these, but didn't have the sufficient motivation to apply the techniques back then, but I believe I do now. I'm going to share some excerpts from these as I re-read them. The books are:
The Rational Behavioral Alcoholic-Relapse Prevention Treatment Method by Maxie C. Maultsby, Jr., M.D.
and
Alcohol - How To Give It Up And Be Glad You Did by Philip Tate Ph.D
The Rational Behavioral Alcoholic-Relapse Prevention Treatment Method by Maxie C. Maultsby, Jr., M.D.
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Alcohol - How To Give It Up And Be Glad You Did by Philip Tate Ph.D
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From the Introduction:
About 10% of Americans are alcoholics. Each year another 200,000 alcohol drinkers become alcoholics. Another 50 to 60 million American lives are harmfully influenced by those alcoholics. The yearly cost to the American economy of it's alcoholics is between 15 and 20 billion dollars. Those facts make alcoholism one of the most common and costly American social health problems.
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Habitual alcohol abuse causes alcoholism, but the following three-step medical treatment quickly cures it.
STEP ONE: STOP ALCOHOLIC DRINKING
STEP TWO: MEDICALLY TREAT ALCOHOL WITHDRAWAL
STEP THREE: MEDICALLY TREAT THE ALCOHOL-INDUCED ILLNESSES
A few of the serious alcohol-induced illnesses alcoholics often have are: gastritis, liver damage, anemia, malnutrition and pneumonia. Except for those problems, however, within less than three weeks of good medical care most alcoholics will dry out and be cured. BUT! There's a BIG CATCH-22. CURING ALCOHOLISM DOES NOT STOP HABITUAL ALCOHOL ABUSE: it just delays it. That's why within a year of treatment most cured (dry) alcoholics take a running:
JUMP OFF THE WAGON
STEP ONE: STOP ALCOHOLIC DRINKING
STEP TWO: MEDICALLY TREAT ALCOHOL WITHDRAWAL
STEP THREE: MEDICALLY TREAT THE ALCOHOL-INDUCED ILLNESSES
A few of the serious alcohol-induced illnesses alcoholics often have are: gastritis, liver damage, anemia, malnutrition and pneumonia. Except for those problems, however, within less than three weeks of good medical care most alcoholics will dry out and be cured. BUT! There's a BIG CATCH-22. CURING ALCOHOLISM DOES NOT STOP HABITUAL ALCOHOL ABUSE: it just delays it. That's why within a year of treatment most cured (dry) alcoholics take a running:
JUMP OFF THE WAGON
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Continued:
THAT'S RIGHT! Alcoholics don't fall off the wagon; they take a running jump. Why? Mainly for two reasons:
1. They are confused about what their main problem is.
2. Their treatment hasn't taught them how to live happily without alcohol.
1. They are confused about what their main problem is.
2. Their treatment hasn't taught them how to live happily without alcohol.
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1. They are confused about what their main problem is.
2. Their treatment hasn't taught them how to live happily without alcohol.
2. Their treatment hasn't taught them how to live happily without alcohol.
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How to cope with life sober. Very important. Any more extracts Paul?
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THAT'S RIGHT! Alcoholics don't fall off the wagon; they take a running jump. Why? Mainly for two reasons:
1. They are confused about what their main problem is.
2. Their treatment hasn't taught them how to live happily without alcohol.
I don't know about you everyone else but that seems to be where those group of people wth a common thread of not dirinking and being stupid comes in!
1. They are confused about what their main problem is.
2. Their treatment hasn't taught them how to live happily without alcohol.
I don't know about you everyone else but that seems to be where those group of people wth a common thread of not dirinking and being stupid comes in!
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You bet, Paul!
Unfortunately, most alcoholics mistakenly believe their main problem is alcoholism. That's why it's common to hear them say "Doc, this is the fifth time I've been treated. So this time I want you-all to keep me as long as it takes to really cure me. Give me a triple dose if that's what it takes. I'm really tired of this disease. I don't ever want to have alcoholism again." Such alcoholics are confused. Their main problem is not alcoholism. Their main problem is habitual alcohol abuse, most accurately called HABITUAL PROBLEM DRINKING - that is, drinking to solve personal problems. For such alcoholics to stay cured, they must learn how to solve their problems without alcohol.
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AA IS ONE WAY
For over forty years, AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) has been proving what recent research clearly shows: problem drinkers can be taught how to stop habitual drinking. But if they stop, they have to do it themselves. All that friends, relatives, physicians, psychotherapists or counselors can do is teach problem drinkers what they need to know to stop drinking. And over a half million dollar in recent research indicated that this NEW SELF-HELP ALCOHOLIC TREATMENT METHOD is as effective as AA in teaching alcoholics to stop problem drinking.
For over forty years, AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) has been proving what recent research clearly shows: problem drinkers can be taught how to stop habitual drinking. But if they stop, they have to do it themselves. All that friends, relatives, physicians, psychotherapists or counselors can do is teach problem drinkers what they need to know to stop drinking. And over a half million dollar in recent research indicated that this NEW SELF-HELP ALCOHOLIC TREATMENT METHOD is as effective as AA in teaching alcoholics to stop problem drinking.
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continued (still from Intro):
WHY A NEW SELF-HELP METHOD IS NEEDED
Almost twice as many alcoholics get treatment from AA than from the medical and other health professionals. Yet, most research studies show that AA does not give any more effective treatment to alcoholics thatn health professionals give. That fact indicates that alcoholics prefer self-help treatment methods to those of traditional health professionals BUT, less than 20 percent of Americans 20 + million alcoholics accept AA's self-help treatment. Consequently, over 80% of America's alcoholics are not receiving any treatment. Obviously, therefore, we need other types of self-help treatment methods that are as effective as AA. That's why I recommend this RELAPSE PREVENTION TREATMENT METHOD.
Almost twice as many alcoholics get treatment from AA than from the medical and other health professionals. Yet, most research studies show that AA does not give any more effective treatment to alcoholics thatn health professionals give. That fact indicates that alcoholics prefer self-help treatment methods to those of traditional health professionals BUT, less than 20 percent of Americans 20 + million alcoholics accept AA's self-help treatment. Consequently, over 80% of America's alcoholics are not receiving any treatment. Obviously, therefore, we need other types of self-help treatment methods that are as effective as AA. That's why I recommend this RELAPSE PREVENTION TREATMENT METHOD.
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For the purpose of this book, I believe when speaking of alcoholism, the author is referring to the physical dependence on alcohol, and problem drinking as the behavior which leads to that dependence.
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Originally Posted by doorknob 
For the purpose of this book, I believe when speaking of alcoholism, the author is referring to the physical dependence on alcohol, and problem drinking as the behavior which leads to that dependence.
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Originally Posted by stone
Yep, I think so too. It is a bit confusing because as a (former) binge drinker I am not addicted to alcohol but I am deffo an alcoholic.
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Yea, it doesn't matter, as long as you know you have to stop.
Also, I don't care if it is a disease or a cog-behavioural problem, though I tend to agreee more with the cog-behavioural label.
The disease model assumes dependancy has to automatically occur. As though all alkies are daily drinkers who are chemically dependant, that is why books like "under the influence" were useless to me.
AA views it from the disease model but they get it right when they say the problem is centered in the mind.
Also, I don't care if it is a disease or a cog-behavioural problem, though I tend to agreee more with the cog-behavioural label.
The disease model assumes dependancy has to automatically occur. As though all alkies are daily drinkers who are chemically dependant, that is why books like "under the influence" were useless to me.
AA views it from the disease model but they get it right when they say the problem is centered in the mind.
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Thanks doorknob for the excerpts. I try to read as much as I can from everywhere. We all seem to be different yet so much the same. I just would like to be cured. Been sober over 6 months so I am on the path just wish I would reach somewhere. Some days are still better than others. Yesterday was a bad day after a good month of January. I hope these used to be drinking days will stop haunting me. Talk about rambling...lol
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