i disagree with "letting them hit their bottom"....
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tazman,are u kidding me??????? i sure the hell hope so,now u gettin under ma fromunda!!!!! listen,o sober one,go ask YO momma how to be a man,i think i made myself pretty funkn clear here and you post some dumbazz comment like that??? funk u dude,dont be a penis to me,ok?
i think it is too ez now for me to just hrow my arms up and drink,
We don't give up on the alkie and/or addict, we just STOP ENABLING. We don't call in sick for them anymore. We don't keep their supper warm any more, we let them sleep where they fall, and leave them to sleep in their own vomit and urine.
Pretty soon Patrick your wife may even stop doing your laundry, and then one day want you to leave.
Just keep drinking Patrick and the progression will speed up. Music and Anna both made excellent points, each of us has only so much time in a day, thus we must use it to work with those that WANT help. That includes your own family and friends.
what im feeling is frig it,i may as well just keep drinking cuz most of me isnt scared of death in my clouded up mind.
Patrick, we know as well as you do, that NO ONE can make you drink and NO ONE can make you stop, EXCEPT YOU.
You know what you need to do. When are you going to do it?
Love and hugs,
Patrick...
I haven't been where you are, I am a "high-bottom" drunk I guess... and I believe, in my heart, it was only luck that allowed that to happen for me.
But I go to lots and lots of meetings. Sometimes I hear addicts and other alkies tell me they lost things... homes, cars, jobs, wives, friends, relationships.
They mention that because they get those things back when they get sober.
It takes what it takes, Homer.
I can't remember - have you done an inpatient treatment, yet? Could be you just need some concentrated stuff for a bit. But no one can "make you".
I found out I can slow down my loved one's recovery process... but I can't speed it up. I presume the same is true for you.
I wish you the best.
I haven't been where you are, I am a "high-bottom" drunk I guess... and I believe, in my heart, it was only luck that allowed that to happen for me.
But I go to lots and lots of meetings. Sometimes I hear addicts and other alkies tell me they lost things... homes, cars, jobs, wives, friends, relationships.
They mention that because they get those things back when they get sober.
It takes what it takes, Homer.
I can't remember - have you done an inpatient treatment, yet? Could be you just need some concentrated stuff for a bit. But no one can "make you".
I found out I can slow down my loved one's recovery process... but I can't speed it up. I presume the same is true for you.
I wish you the best.
I have not given up on you. I just get tired of repeating myself and know that when you reach the point of wanting to hear it...you will ask and listen.
Saving my breath is not the same as giving up on you.
When you are ready to accept the truth...I will be here and answer if I am still around.
Saving my breath is not the same as giving up on you.
When you are ready to accept the truth...I will be here and answer if I am still around.
Homer - I'm just making this up in my head - but a do beleive you will get it one day - after your completely demoralising bad as hell rock bottom - I think everyone has them - just to the degree of your tollerance or intollerance is the question.
I'll throw one up there to the big fella for ya tonight.
I'll throw one up there to the big fella for ya tonight.
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I like to think that I didn't lose those things, I gave them away every time I picked up a drink. I earn the right to have them back by staying sober and embracing a program of recovery. It's a lot of hard work, worth every bit of effort and drop of sweat.
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i care...but talking to a drunk it piontless, cuz you're not going to remember it
and it gets all twisted up in there...
yeah...I'll follow direction...the BB say I shold move on to others.
anywho..the stories gose...BW tried and tried and tire again to get other
people sober and everyone of them didn't get sober.
He came home oneday and was kind of down and thought all this
AA was bs...
His wife said "but you're sober..."
Works like that for me too....
and it gets all twisted up in there...
yeah...I'll follow direction...the BB say I shold move on to others.
anywho..the stories gose...BW tried and tried and tire again to get other
people sober and everyone of them didn't get sober.
He came home oneday and was kind of down and thought all this
AA was bs...
His wife said "but you're sober..."
Works like that for me too....
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i reda EVERY post and and and? im gonna not drink tomorrow,ok,tomorrow i will nmot drink for yall ppl,but thats too ez,its the 2 and 3 and 4 and 8 day i cant do it,freg it im out,i will not drink tomorrow but will stop here to harrasss you people
I'm no saint and I'm no preacher...I drank basically every day for 15 years, drinking until I was unconscious...but I'm three weeks sober now...
trust me, the '2 and 3 and 4 and 8 day thing' comes from waking up one day and saying 'I will not drink today' and then making the same vow again tomorrow and the the day after that, and the day after that...
it ain't rocket science...but you really do have to want it, and I mean REALLY want it....
and, hey, Pat, I don't know you or most of the people here, but it's pretty clear to me from reading, they're being tough on ya cos they care...try to remember that...they're good people...
and keep posting...you're good people too !
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It's not giving up on us Homer. Thats just how it feels when we get wrapped up in our self pity. We can't use & abuse, and have our mentality all over the map, and assume we have some sort of grasp on reality.
The alcoholic ego. A much bigger problem than anything "they" might do to us.
The alcoholic ego. A much bigger problem than anything "they" might do to us.
Don't drink for you Homer... and do come by to harass us . If you do that everyday you'll be good to go.
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