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PR there are many, even some alcoholics, mainly practicing ones that feel alcoholism is nothing but a lack of will power and morals.
Does it make a difference if it is a disease or not? To me..... no not really, but it does give me some relief in knowing that I am not crazy!!! I have great will power in all areas except alcohol, once I knew it was a disease it gave me a degree of relief that I was not insane, that there was a scientifically proven reason for my lack of will power in that one area.
To others I would imagine it does.
The worst part of it is there is still a few people in the world that do not know it is a physical disease and feel that the alcoholic is a weak willed idiot.
Does it make a difference if it is a disease or not? To me..... no not really, but it does give me some relief in knowing that I am not crazy!!! I have great will power in all areas except alcohol, once I knew it was a disease it gave me a degree of relief that I was not insane, that there was a scientifically proven reason for my lack of will power in that one area.
To others I would imagine it does.
The worst part of it is there is still a few people in the world that do not know it is a physical disease and feel that the alcoholic is a weak willed idiot.
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Taz,
Whatever philosophy (HP, disease/condition, etc.) is the one that helps people get sober, then that's the idea they need to subscribe to.
I suppose knowing what it "is" does help some cope, but for me just knowing I have a problem with alcohol is all I need to know. The "why" I have a problem isn't as pressing as the "what" to me.
Everyone is different in who they choose as a HP, and I'm sure the same way with how they see alcohol. The path of least resistance to sobriety should be the path taken.
All the best,
PR
Whatever philosophy (HP, disease/condition, etc.) is the one that helps people get sober, then that's the idea they need to subscribe to.
I suppose knowing what it "is" does help some cope, but for me just knowing I have a problem with alcohol is all I need to know. The "why" I have a problem isn't as pressing as the "what" to me.
Everyone is different in who they choose as a HP, and I'm sure the same way with how they see alcohol. The path of least resistance to sobriety should be the path taken.
All the best,
PR
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If alcohol (which is a drug) were to be taken by alcoholics intra venously then they would be treated in exactly the same way as addicts of any other drug and the condition would be treated as a serious compulsive addiction.
It doesn't really matter what people call it, and calling it a serious compulsive addiction is not demeaning it in any way, so long as it's treated well and people recover to continue their lives in a manner that they themselves are happy with and a manner that does not have a detrimental effect on others.
But I for one will never accept it as a disease and I have every right to adopt this viewpoint. If by using the word it acts as some type of comfort blanket for some and helps them get over their addiction, by all means use it however it is clear that the semantics of this subject are an area of some debate and are not as black and white as some would suggest.
God this has driven me to ...... another cup of tea !!!
It doesn't really matter what people call it, and calling it a serious compulsive addiction is not demeaning it in any way, so long as it's treated well and people recover to continue their lives in a manner that they themselves are happy with and a manner that does not have a detrimental effect on others.
But I for one will never accept it as a disease and I have every right to adopt this viewpoint. If by using the word it acts as some type of comfort blanket for some and helps them get over their addiction, by all means use it however it is clear that the semantics of this subject are an area of some debate and are not as black and white as some would suggest.
God this has driven me to ...... another cup of tea !!!
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Originally Posted by Budfrog 
If alcohol (which is a drug) were to be taken by alcoholics intra venously then they would be treated in exactly the same way as addicts of any other drug and the condition would be treated as a serious compulsive addiction.
It doesn't really matter what people call it, and calling it a serious compulsive addiction is not demeaning it in any way, so long as it's treated well and people recover to continue their lives in a manner that they themselves are happy with and a manner that does not have a detrimental effect on others.
But I for one will never accept it as a disease and I have every right to adopt this viewpoint. If by using the word it acts as some type of comfort blanket for some and helps them get over their addiction, by all means use it however it is clear that the semantics of this subject are an area of some debate and are not as black and white as some would suggest.
God this has driven me to ...... another cup of tea !!!
It doesn't really matter what people call it, and calling it a serious compulsive addiction is not demeaning it in any way, so long as it's treated well and people recover to continue their lives in a manner that they themselves are happy with and a manner that does not have a detrimental effect on others.
But I for one will never accept it as a disease and I have every right to adopt this viewpoint. If by using the word it acts as some type of comfort blanket for some and helps them get over their addiction, by all means use it however it is clear that the semantics of this subject are an area of some debate and are not as black and white as some would suggest.
God this has driven me to ...... another cup of tea !!!
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Originally Posted by Budfrog
If alcohol (which is a drug) were to be taken by alcoholics intra venously then they would be treated in exactly the same way as addicts of any other drug and the condition would be treated as a serious compulsive addiction.
It doesn't really matter what people call it, and calling it a serious compulsive addiction is not demeaning it in any way, so long as it's treated well and people recover to continue their lives in a manner that they themselves are happy with and a manner that does not have a detrimental effect on others.
But I for one will never accept it as a disease and I have every right to adopt this viewpoint. If by using the word it acts as some type of comfort blanket for some and helps them get over their addiction, by all means use it however it is clear that the semantics of this subject are an area of some debate and are not as black and white as some would suggest.
God this has driven me to ...... another cup of tea !!!
It doesn't really matter what people call it, and calling it a serious compulsive addiction is not demeaning it in any way, so long as it's treated well and people recover to continue their lives in a manner that they themselves are happy with and a manner that does not have a detrimental effect on others.
But I for one will never accept it as a disease and I have every right to adopt this viewpoint. If by using the word it acts as some type of comfort blanket for some and helps them get over their addiction, by all means use it however it is clear that the semantics of this subject are an area of some debate and are not as black and white as some would suggest.
God this has driven me to ...... another cup of tea !!!
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