Two Higher Powers?
"The Tao that can be talked about is not the true “Tao”. Tao can not be represented as a particular entity, thing or image. Tao is not directly translatable to “God”. Any word we can define is not the Tao. The concept of a personified deity is foreign to a Taoist, as is the concept of the creation of the universe. Time is cyclical, not linear as in Western thinking. Tao is unknowable in “essence” but observable in “manifestations”. The Tao belongs neither to knowing or not knowing. It is paradoxically “nothing”, yet it is “in everything”.
"...When we became alcoholics, crushed by a self-imposed crisis we could not postpone or evade, we had to fearlessly face the proposition that either God is everything or else He is nothing. God either is, or He isn't. What was our choice to be?..."
Well, pmv, there are many AAer's who disagree with some/many parts of the BB. Most of my recovered friends are Atheists; so their answer to the above questions would be "nothing" and "isn't" yet they're all clean/sober 30 years, at least............something must be working.
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NoelleR
Well, pmv, there are many AAer's who disagree with some/many parts of the BB. Most of my recovered friends are Atheists; so their answer to the above questions would be "nothing" and "isn't" yet they're all clean/sober 30 years, at least............something must be working.
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NoelleR
Some folks pray to IDK (I Don't Know) and it works out just fine. Sometimes I pray to the Tao of the Universe.
"The Tao that can be talked about is not the true “Tao”. Tao can not be represented as a particular entity, thing or image. Tao is not directly translatable to “God”. Any word we can define is not the Tao. The concept of a personified deity is foreign to a Taoist, as is the concept of the creation of the universe. Time is cyclical, not linear as in Western thinking. Tao is unknowable in “essence” but observable in “manifestations”. The Tao belongs neither to knowing or not knowing. It is paradoxically “nothing”, yet it is “in everything”.
"The Tao that can be talked about is not the true “Tao”. Tao can not be represented as a particular entity, thing or image. Tao is not directly translatable to “God”. Any word we can define is not the Tao. The concept of a personified deity is foreign to a Taoist, as is the concept of the creation of the universe. Time is cyclical, not linear as in Western thinking. Tao is unknowable in “essence” but observable in “manifestations”. The Tao belongs neither to knowing or not knowing. It is paradoxically “nothing”, yet it is “in everything”.
"...When we became alcoholics, crushed by a self-imposed crisis we could not postpone or evade, we had to fearlessly face the proposition that either God is everything or else He is nothing. God either is, or He isn't. What was our choice to be?..."
Well, pmv, there are many AAer's who disagree with some/many parts of the BB. Most of my recovered friends are Atheists; so their answer to the above questions would be "nothing" and "isn't" yet they're all clean/sober 30 years, at least............something must be working.
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NoelleR
Well, pmv, there are many AAer's who disagree with some/many parts of the BB. Most of my recovered friends are Atheists; so their answer to the above questions would be "nothing" and "isn't" yet they're all clean/sober 30 years, at least............something must be working.
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NoelleR
I'm just home from a speaking commitment and shared part of what I do know about my HP. The morning of November 14th, getting and staying sober wasn't even a thought. The idea of not drinking terrified me and I would have rather cut off one of my legs than stop drinking. But here's the thing - a door opened and I walked trough it and I haven't had a drink since. Whatever it is that opened that door is my HP. Call it God, Grace, the power of the universe or Billy, that's fine by me.
When I stop playing god and can be comfortable with "I don't know" is when I'm living in solution. It's that simple.
-allan
Some folks pray to IDK (I Don't Know) and it works out just fine. Sometimes I pray to the Tao of the Universe.
"The Tao that can be talked about is not the true “Tao”. Tao can not be represented as a particular entity, thing or image. Tao is not directly translatable to “God”. Any word we can define is not the Tao. The concept of a personified deity is foreign to a Taoist, as is the concept of the creation of the universe. Time is cyclical, not linear as in Western thinking. Tao is unknowable in “essence” but observable in “manifestations”. The Tao belongs neither to knowing or not knowing. It is paradoxically “nothing”, yet it is “in everything”.
"The Tao that can be talked about is not the true “Tao”. Tao can not be represented as a particular entity, thing or image. Tao is not directly translatable to “God”. Any word we can define is not the Tao. The concept of a personified deity is foreign to a Taoist, as is the concept of the creation of the universe. Time is cyclical, not linear as in Western thinking. Tao is unknowable in “essence” but observable in “manifestations”. The Tao belongs neither to knowing or not knowing. It is paradoxically “nothing”, yet it is “in everything”.
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I believe the reality of God gets lost when you get the message delivered by people who try to stuff God into a building they visit for AA Meetings
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