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Old 12-30-2008, 06:57 AM
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Apologizing can sometimes = manipulation

Last night in a 12 step meeting we were on Step 10. Someone shared that one of their defects was apologizing when they didn't even really know why they were apologizing. It occurred to me that when I apologize for something when I don't recognize the wrong or harm that I have caused, it's a form of manipulation.

I can manipulate others into thinking that I empathize when all I really know is that something is wrong between us. Sometimes when I'm uncomfortable with that feeling of dischord, and I want that feeling lifted, my knee-jerk reaction sometimes is to apologize. By apologizing for something when I don't fully understand the harm I have caused, I'm doing nothing but causing further harm. It's a lie.

It's important for me to understand my defects in action and know the true motives behind the harm I have caused before I can take any action.
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Old 12-30-2008, 07:07 AM
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I agree...it's all about my motives
For me...I'd rather wait to apologize
until I can do so with truth.
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Old 12-30-2008, 07:09 AM
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Excellent observation, for many years I did that with my first wife, I would tell her I was sorry for things that I was totally oblivious to just to appease her!
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Do wives count? I thought we men had to perfect the apology in premarital workshops.
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Old 12-30-2008, 08:34 AM
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I only apologize when I am wrong.

Plain & simple...
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Old 12-30-2008, 08:42 AM
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Barto in my premarital workshop I was taught that I only needed a few phrases to led to a perfect marriage.

Yes dear.
No dear.
You are right.
I am wrong.
I am sorry.
Where do you want to eat out tonight.
I love you.
Of course I would love to have your mom move in with us!
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:09 AM
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Apologies are tough. I have definitely been guilty of the manipulation angle here. Amends are better. I get out of the trap and become accountable for my actions.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:32 AM
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That might have gotten lost on me.

If, he didn't know he or, she offended someone, why was there an apology offered?


After a clear head of a few 24 hours, I know when, I've deliberately said something in the heat of the moment or otherwise.

We all have choices. I can choose to let something someone said to me upset me or not. Same thing can also be said about someone being upset over something we said to them.

Good friends can say things to each other in jest that, a total stranger couldn't without upsetting us.

Trying to stay fit in my spiritual condition today allows me to chew on words a lot longer before, I spit them out.
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:01 AM
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It's that whole 'I'm okay, if you're okay' thing. Eh?

I noticed it in myself about 4/5 years ago when I realised I had a tendency to be overly nice to people I could not stand.
It never occured to me I could just be polite.
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Old 12-30-2008, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tazman53 View Post
Barto in my premarital workshop I was taught that I only needed a few phrases to led to a perfect marriage.

Yes dear.
No dear.
You are right.
I am wrong.
I am sorry.
Where do you want to eat out tonight.
I love you.
Of course I would love to have your mom move in with us!
LMAO Taz. Good to read you again.
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:16 PM
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Sometimes when I'm uncomfortable with that feeling of dischord, and I want that feeling lifted, my knee-jerk reaction sometimes is to apologize.
Yep Justanother..and a glaring codie trait.

Anything to "keep the bad feelings away"...people pleasing stuff.

I still do it so much. Then get sick of it. And then..angry and fed up.

But I am growing...
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