Originally Posted by
brighterday1234 
I don’t believe logic can bring an alcoholic to a place of contented sobriety alone. If it could then it would be easy to stay sober. This is proven not to be the case for alcoholics. Consequences don’t keep an alcoholic in contented sobriety imo and it isn’t an issue that can be outthought logically. For me the spiritual solution advocated by AA has proven to give me contented happy sobriety.
my experience excally
logic - the laws which govern correct thinking....the science of correct reasoning
my sponsor points out to me it is where the logic comes from,me or the HP
if it comes from me then I need to consider the word insanity,in step 2.
If it comes from the HP,then it is correct ...step 11
my incorrect logic was selfishness,dishonesty,fear,resentment etc
the HP changes it to honesty,unselfishness,service etc which results in me being happy,joyous and free