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Old 07-31-2018, 02:45 PM
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I'm atheist & I could never make the "spiritual" side of the 12-Step fellowships work for me. I did, however, find some meetings useful in early recovery - I think the support of others with similar problems is helpful even if you aren't following the program - take what you need & leave the rest. as kevlarsjal2 says above, Tradition Three is your friend here for what it's worth, I found NA/CA to be more inclusive of substances/behaviours other than alcohol & more tolerant of people following a slightly different path.

saying that, it can be like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. are there any secular recovery organisations in NZ? LifeRing, SOS, SMART, etc? I believe NZ is about as irreligious as the UK, so I would expect there would be.

if not, it looks like SMART Australia do online meetings which might be worth trying if AA still isn't working for you:
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