Originally Posted by
dwtbd Permanent abstinence requires that even if you do evaluate the worth-ness as a net positive, you still don't do it. ( Obviously, obvious , but worth consideration)
That's true.
Whether I desire oblivion or whether I find similar reprieve elsewhere is immaterial. I think I'll always desire it, but going forward, I will not indulge the desire.
I believe that is permanent abstinence.