Thanks for starting this thread, TU and to all who posted here. I had read the rational recovery book years ago and have been to the website a number of times over the years. I do prefer his method but hadn't been ready to really stop until this time of my life now. His method is time efficient, inexpensive, treats one like a mature adult, it's private, it's freeing, no conflicts with my faith. Counting days is a snare for me, so it goes well with that thought. So I'm rereading the crash course and moving on. Day whatever. :-)