I went to the RR website earlier and did the crash course in AVRT...WOW what an eye opener,I mean the info was very basic and consisted of things you would think every person with a drug or alcohol problem would not have to be taught to think of. I guess in a society that teaches people that addiction is a disease for which there is no cure but only coping methods,it makes sense that myself and others have not acted on or thought of the basic info contained in the AVRT crash course.I also think the AVRT approach teaches more personal accountability then traditional methods of recovery. The problems we suffered and may still be suffering from were self induced and it makes sense to me that if we learn the techniques for recognizing the AV(the beast) we will be well prepared to kill it...good luck to all