Originally Posted by
harry101 
Surely there's nothing wrong, in principle, with taking hedonic substances. A substance only becomes a problem to a person when they continue to take it against their better judgement.
No, there's nothing necessarily wrong, in principle, with getting high, but Trimpey has made it abundantly clear that AVRT is an across-the-board quit-getting-high approach. I remember several people on the RR forums looking for a loophole to this, and Trimpey basically told them that they can do whatever they want, but that it ain't AVRT.
Originally Posted by
harry101 Why should a smoker who wants to quit by using AVRT, also have to quit booze if they're a moderate drinker and it causes them no problems?
That's on them, but the problem with getting drunk or high, even if it is not with your primary DOC, is that once under the influence, your judgement is impaired, and you will be more susceptible to returning to your DOC as soon as the AV chimes in and suggests getting the good stuff. This is why people often go back to their DOC when they are under the influence of some other drug. If someone really is a moderate drinker, though, then presumably, they won't be getting drunk, and they won't have that problem.
Nicotine and caffeine don't really affect your judgement this way, so that may also be why Jack refers to them as 'minor league', and why he makes an exception for them with regard to the across-the-board thing.