Originally Posted by
GerandTwine 
Later on, I want to get back into a discussion aboutperfect objective separation from the AV
without a Big Plan. I'm not yet convinced it's not possible to succeed at abstinence in that manner.
Here's a Trimpey quote someone sent me in a PM:
"In AVRT, is not possible to recognize all of your AV and still drink. That is part of the foundation for our 100% threshold of confidence. AVRT is perfect, and attempts to discover imperfection in AVRT are just so much AV."
Also, I don't think a marriage vow is similar to a vow to prevent alcohol from going in my mouth. The latter is so damn in-my-face simple while the former is one of the most complex commitments imaginable to the human mind.
That will be an awesomely interesting discussion.
