Originally Posted by
dwtbd 
I think you are asking if one decides to permanently abstain are they not actually then admitting that they do not trust themselves to drink responsibly again, ?
No, I am asking if one decides to permanently abstain are they then somehow rendered incapable of ever drinking again, that is, they do not have to carry any further burden of responsibility. With respect, it seems to me that this is the import of most of the recent AVRT teaching here - a long way from how the common man/woman quits IMO.