Originally Posted by
Morning Glory 
Sometimes we start having conflict in forums.
That is how this forum began. I noticed you all needed a safe place to post and you were fighting an uphill battle.
Is there a need for another separation? Is there enough division to warrant a solution? Are there enough members on each side of the fence who would participate if we find a solution.
I welcome your input.
I believe there may be enough members on either side of the AVRT/non-AVRT division to merit a separation. That’s not to say the respective members can’t post on the other forum!
If the Secular AA Forum was moved as a sub-forum to 12 Step - Alcoholism Support, then another forum (not sub-forum) could replace it. So following recent discussion on Secular, the focus seems to be upon locus of control. Therefore the two new secular forums could be “internal locus of control” i.e, AVRT, SMART Recovery, The Freedom Model and CBT: and the other forum, secular methods that require external locus of control, i.e, IOP, therapy, as other posters here have followed and recommended.