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dwtbd The only insulting/bashing/arguing/putting down are those posts directed at discrediting the OP.
It is astonishing to see how powerful the collective AV is toward coloring a discussion, the psycho-epistemologic eruptions of the AV actually have adults arguing over the merits of promise making, lol !
Exchange and discussion including points of view that are different from your AVRT-focused perspective aren't necessarily bashing. And didn't you just put down all those people as "the collective AV", voices you don't want to hear?
This is why many non-RR secular recovery folks don't post here.