Originally Posted by
dwtbd 
Recovery is the practice of keeping 'yourself' from drinking, being recovered means you don't drink, ever. Yeah?
Being recovered, to me, means that I will never follow my AV and so drink again.
Can I guarantee
now that I won't be drinking next Friday at quarter past 8? No. Others may be able to make that guarantee for themselves but I can't for myself.
Can I guarantee
now that I won't be drinking next Friday at quarter past 8 if,
then , I have separated from any AV I may be having? Obviously yes.
Where we differ is that I see being recovered as a process and you don't. But I see it as a process not as one of recover
ing but of staying recovered. Where we agree is that, at every point in that process, I am recover
ed, not recovering.
Again, I am worried that we are making AVRT sound too obtuse for newcomers and it would be better not to start going round in circles.