Dee I know that I felt especially grateful for your kindness towards me and also other members when I first joined. I think people with addiction problems have probably had a whole lifetime already of "straight talk" "tell it like it is" people and very little compassion. That sort of thing doesn't really help unless the person is asking for it and even then it should be delivered with care and tact. People going through hell don't need a hot cup of "you NEED to..." for sure! This site is the best. I love that no matter how many times some of us fall there is always someone to let them know someone cares. We all suffer from the human condition after all.