Originally Posted by
algorithm 
this is your addictive voice, tatsy.
Only then... Can the process of ending... Begin...
Can you see this?
Yes, but it wasn't my AV. It was me, I was trying, rather clumsily it seems, to explain this: if someone has been indoctrinated in a program and thereby believes that they'll never, ever, be able to conquer addiction under their own steam - then, that falsehood needs to be exposed for the AV it is, in order for them to have the necessary open mind required to learn a method that will conquer addiction forever.
I'm sorry I don't explain myself better previously. That is why I've posted here, because without the 'deprograming' there can be no learning of the permanent solution to addiction, that we've applied.