I'd like to say to any newcomers that the vast majority of members here will not regard you as being 'furious" or "blowing your top" merely because you wish to discuss, heaven forbid, a key concept of AVRT.
Newcomer's come to new experiences not knowing so much and therefore open to what they don't know. What we don't know is always a larger field than what we do know, even for us "experts", and while of course we stop being a beginner after a certain point we can all benefit from the creativeness and possibilities that newcomers bring. It helps us stay fresh - I made a fresh start and want to stay that way and retain a "beginners mind".
Sorry to introduce a note of what probably sounds like pretentiousness into your interesting thread zenchaser but I felt it needed to be said in the light of some of the above posts
