Originally Posted by
zenchaser 
But there are natural ways to still find pleasure. .
Just as a thought exercise, let me pose a question: what if there were no alternate sources of pleasurable experience, the kind that releases dopamine, lifts you on the shoulders of your grateful coworkers and carries you off the field with the gold medal around your neck?
I sounds weird - very weird - but I have learned to be happy without pleasure and not make my well being dependent on pleasure.
Sounds weird, but no weirder than most of the **** AV you used to throw around.