Originally Posted by
Berrybean 
Addiction isn't intellectual. It is insanity. We can follow our logical reasoning up our own bumholes to the next drunk any time we like.
I never met a single sober person who didnt try lots of ways of moderating (unsuccessfully) before conceding defeat and stepping away from the battle.
I suspect the answer that you are hoping to find is likely to elude you on this particular forum. At the end of the day. Do we want to get well? Are we willing to do what is necessary? The answer from a moderating point of view (in my case) was YES and YES. Until I took the first couple of drinks (pretty moderate!!) and then the eff-it button would be hit. So whether an alcoholic or problem drinker, seeking moderation is like howling for the moon.
BB
Thanks for your response. Very well thought out. Guess it comes down to if the person is actually an alcoholic or not. If you are moderation and harm reduction wont work. most likely. I guess my question is if you are more the problem drinker type and you can have a drink and not go on a week long bender is moderation or harm reduction viable alternatives to deal with the issue. I guess this question opens up a whole another can of worms as to when one qualifies as a alcoholic.