Hi Scylla. IMHO there just is no thing as 'too late' or 'too far gone'. I can tell you that I know quite a few people who struggled for a long time to get and stay sober, and when they finally did, it wasn't because they had hit a bottom as much as it was that something 'just clicked'. And that's how they described it. There wasn't any rhyme or reason to why it worked, they simply kept trying to get sober and out of the blue something happened and they got it. I know I'm not describing this very well, my only point is that sometimes all we really need to do is keep trying, because miracles can and do happen, often without warning. They were given the fortitude to embrace recovery whole heartedly and do the work and their lives changed dramatically. Best wishes to you!