zerothehero

It is unfortunate that you felt that my post might be "the height of effrontery" but I was only speaking from my own experience, and the experience of the majority who try to get sober numerous times before it sticks. It is actually quite a leap to judge me (or my AV) as being "scared sh*tless" about your "truth" (or the truth you read in a book or a website), because if your truth can be "understood and replicated" with great success, and I believe it is, that's fantastic.

For what it's worth, I am around 42 months sober, I'm a musician who plays with others who drink and get high, we perform in bars sometimes, I go to music festivals like the one last weekend where I was surrounded by what I would call temptations except that I am no longer tempted, I have done this on my own (well, I went to half a dozen AA meetings and said no thanks) largely due to a personal commitment to sobriety, I used the AV concept in early sobriety and found it helpful, and I have nothing against RR (aside from zealots who freak out if anyone shares other, apparently invalid, approaches to recovery).

I posted something similar in another thread a few weeks ago, but again, I used to come to the secular forums because it was less dominated by AA dogma, but now the secular forum is overrun with RR dogma.

Dogma: dog·ma
[ˈdôɡmə]
NOUN

a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true