Right, I think it's hard to really grow when we're stuck in the revolving door of sobriety support group meetings. That's what I found anyways. One thing I increasingly noticed was, the people who park themselves in forever meetings, of any flavor, are often a bit "off" - stuck, perhaps, behaving and reacting in unusual ways. Protective of keeping things exactly the same, because they rely on that sameness. There are plenty of exceptions, but it was a pattern I began to notice. I found it liberating to stop relying on that predictable routine of meetings, and when I occasionally go to one like my outpatient drop-in group, I find it's more meaningful for me.