NRM - you realise your whole response is off topic too now, right?
This to and fro is what happens and it's why the rule is there.
I haven't been here since the beginning Life - I heard of a Jon who founded SR?
In any case, one of the regular mods here Morning Glory has been here since the beginning.
I'll let her, or the other assigned mod Shockozulu, decide if this thread needs to be moved to Secular 12 step forum now.
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