Understood and appreciated. It's weird to hear your struggle out of the mouths of others....you start to see yourself from above instead of being right in the middle of it. It's a strange thing to have an epiphany about yourself and your own behavior. I just recently realized I've been every kind of drinker....after labeling myself as a specific breed or something lol....bottom line is I'm an alcoholic....another epiphany....I realize I've never said that out loud to anyone other than myself. I suppose putting it in writing on a computer is a start?? I hope!