Last question, it seems to me that many people who have been a part of a sobriety program proclaim that alcoholism is a progressive disease; in that, you will continue to drink more and more until you kill yourself. I can see a logical fallacy in that theory whenever I choose! All I have to do is go to the nearest American Legion or VFW and talk to vets who have been getting drunk their entire lives! What separates them from those who commit alcohol suicide??