Originally Posted by miamifella

Yes to both.

And I guess I am judgmental in that I think that the program ought to provide more guidance on quitting. I understand that meetings are there to motivate people, but sometimes it takes more than handing someone a book and telling them that people in recovery have great lives to show them how to stop.

The program may be great for staying stopped---but there ought to be a way to help people to stop in the first place! I think that there is a bit too much mystery in the program and that people ought to be able to ask questions about how to quit drinking and drugging. Telling people to pray before they have any concept of a higher power, does not always work.

In my judgmental judgement this is a real shortcoming. And I think it is why so many people feel unwelcome and/or confused.