Originally Posted by
bullmas 
This kinda sounds like a quick cop out orry I'm old ,& unemployed , Can't get any insurance at all ' can't get A job, after 2 years and once again can't get any satisfaction at all ..except a 12 pack of beer. good luck you guys&girls . Take care. Bullmas
Remove "kinda" and you've hit the nail on the head Bullmas. A 12 pack will bring you no satisfaction either, just more misery, guilt and shame piled on top of all the rest of it.
I hope you reconsider - none of the things you mentioned have stopped others from getting and staying sober.