Great advice Bob. I have read a few books on addiction also. It's really about getting out of the escape rut. Dealing with life on it's terms. Very hard have to relearn but posibble because many others have done it. Hard to not romanticize when drinking was related to everything. It's no way to live around planning drunken escapades and hangovers. This is my third attempt and I feel really strong. My motivation is no matter what happens at least my mind and body we're sober. Being a parent you can't be a good example drunk or respond to a crisis properly. Have a safe drive and thanks for the insights on Allen Carr.