thanks for engaging, dj, and thanks for all of you rockers chiming in too. I like the one where someone said, these days i am just the guy that doesn't drink. It's funny the envy you get when you are the one that is among them, but not doing what they do. They wonder how you ever managed to break away from the crowd and still be cool. it just flat out makes you a better person, and then, if you want that image of being someone that is living life on a higher plane, well, then, you've got it. At some point you just have to make the change. You have to be that brave. you have to put in the work, however and whatever it is that that work turns out to be for you. It can be nothing more than mustering the courage and the awareness. it can come down to it being that you just love being sober so much and who that makes you that you will let nothing and no one take that away from you.