Serinadad, yes it probably is tough love. I understand. They don't know what else to do. And obviously I keep failing so I have no idea what is best for me I'm trying to keep that all in perspective. I'm really trying to keep it all in perspective. Yes, Dee, I should probably try to find a different group. I can't judge everything on just a few people and I know my first alcoholic instinct is to turn things around and blame others. So I'm trying not to take that rejection personally. I will try not to give up. Thank you so much for all of your insight and support