OK! Very interesting and entertaining. Guess you'll all have to agree to disagree here. Been through a few of these discussions and a general agreed consensus is never--ever reached. (Even though my point is of course always right). Thank you all for providing me with your insight on both sides of this. Thanks Jazzfish for the original post. (What was it about?)
Enjoy what ever beliefs makes you all sober and happy and have a great weekend.