If you want to talk about a 12 step program in a secular context, maybe the next forum down is the right place? This particular spot is for secular discussions of recovery without 12 step stuff.
Look for the one called
Secular 12 Step Recovery - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information. This post is perfect for that one!
Please feel free to drop back anytime here, Frixion. You are most welcome.