Agreed. I think it's great if AA works for you. But it does not sound like it's for everyone. Honestly, I don't even know if there is one for me. I think I have the strength to do it myself. This forum may even be enough. I just needed to know there were others like me. I've never suffered physical side effects from quitting. No withdrawls. I quit for well over 4 months with no real problem other than an occasional craving, like I crave a burger. Then I felt that I had done so well, I was ready to try again, in moderation. But I wasn't. It's the whole Lay's potato chips/Chain drinking think. I can't have just one. And as few as one or 2 can often guarantee many more than that. Especially if it's easily at my disposal, like at home.