Thanx for reply. Im still learning to navigate the site. Little bit of a learning curve, evidently. No structured meetings, but have been to a couple AAs. Prob not my thing, but ive committed to go back if i eel like relapsing. ...yeah man, started partying at age of 16 (1986) -extensive use of all kinds of ****. No needles. No xtacy.(guess im too old). Dig your quote. I keep one handy that was spoken by tecumseh.(sp?)