[QUOTE=Dee74;4119807]guys this is the secular connections forum. It's for discussions of secular recovery./QUOTE]
With all respect to your reminder, how is it possible to avoid AA discussions? Pretty much all of the times I see these terms such as 'white knuckling' or 'dry drunk', it's from the AA parishoners, or stories about negative sponsor comments. I'm actually struggling to understand how it's even relevant consideration for new recoverers, or simply hyperbole intended to strike weakness into the minds of those taking the path of sobriety.