Old 07-23-2013, 08:38 AM
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my efforts were about controlling it/myself around it.
this failed repeatedly for three decades. or: i failed repeatedly at this.

my best efforts (failed all-out-efforts-to-control) got me eventually to the place where i understood i'm an alcoholic.

so yeah, i can say my best efforts got me to depth of it.
i'd never thought about it in terms of that saying you quote, which i'd never heard before.
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