Originally Posted by
fini 
you don't need to have a clearly-defined av to recognize an urge and a crazy-drinking-voice and go on being sober in a non-step way.
My observation is that many people
recognize an urge and a crazy-drinking-voice and then type "AV" because it's a lot shorter. I have stopped automatically assuming that anyone using the abbreviation AV is practicing AVRT.
I also know people who google stuff on Bing.
