Sorry all - I know it came off like a criticism of SR. While that did initially spur my outburst, I was more concerned with meetings. Here on SR it can obviously get the best of me but I posted it in the "secular" forum to avoid offending theists here. Sorry for the confusion, and thanks for responding. I will just let it go -- I have bigger fish to fry, I know that for sure. Thanks all, sorry for the tantrum.